[Question #6720] Froggling (body rub) herpes

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66 months ago
I have read many threads and understand that. Hand to genital  contact is a No risk activity which I have had in at the same place w the same girl for over a year now.. every 3-6 weeks as needed. She is gone so I picked another. She proceeded to body rub my to ejaculation.
I was laying face  up and her between my legs as  rubbed her torso including breast’s up n down my front to include my penis. As I got more n more  excited, I am un sure how far down her torso the contact w my penis went. Did she rub her vagina against penis? I am unsure. Either way there was a good 2-5 minutes of this contact

Question: what is my risk for herpes? 

I have been happy with the usual masssge m happy ending hand job n feel totally safe from Sti’s but now this new experience and I’m freaked out

Starting 2 days after Contact ( Friday at 2:30 pm, symptoms started Sunday morning)I have symptoms of some infection, uti sti prostrate.... I tested for uti n nothing then started on anti biotics for prostrate. Now it’s the waiting game. Today is day 4 since contact. Lots of low stomache n pelvic pain and burnging n stinging sensations throughout my penis. Sometimes while looking at it to see for bumps as I squeeze it to turn it it feels like shards of glass in my urethra. The whole area is more red than usual. Scrotum area seems swollen.

So coincidentally I get a prostrate infection 2 days after a new sexual contact? Or is it more probably than not I should expect this burning n such to turn into lesions any day now ?
Or is it all in my head? Which cone full circle to original question
what is the Risk of herpes from this experience?
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
66 months ago
The risk of herpes from this infection is extremely limited if not zero.  Her rubbing her breasts over your penis is zero risk.  If she rubbed her labia against your penis, that's a different matter, but even that, is very low risk without any penetration.  Your prostate infection has nothing to do with this encounter, whatsoever.  I'm not saying this is all in your head but I do think that you might be over-observing any body sensations that you might be having.  Herpes does not cause stomach or pelvic pain.  You had an experience that is different than the one you normally have had in the past and I think that change is freaking you out a bit. 

Terri

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66 months ago
Very low risk with out penetration. I read on some other questions here that sypilis n herpes can be transmitted in the fashion i experienced while all other Sti’s do require penetration but herpes can transfer via skin to skin if u rub against a lesion or some viral shredding w thin skinned areas like the penis?
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
66 months ago
IF there was genital to genital contact, both syphilis and herpes are possible but HIGHLY unlikely!

Terri
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66 months ago
Last question then, why highly unlikely ?
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
66 months ago
Because genital to genital rubbing just generally doesn't transmit enough virus or transmit virus efficiently enough to the cells it might infect vs. penetration.  And you aren't even certain there was genital to genital contact, correct?  So were you lying down, face-up,  and she was between your legs and you couldn't see if there was genital to genital contact?  I'm wondering why not?

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66 months ago
Thx for that info on amount of virus transmitted they way. Similar to hands from genital to the others genitalia? Not enough of the virus? It is truly amazing hearing from you and your team and reading all the other threads. There’s so much fake facts sbout stis out there. Even the nurses in emergencies here have no clue.

I would guess that really all I could see was her head as she was body rubbing my there was no space between me m her to see my penis and where about a her vagina was.  It was rather awkward, I won’t be returning for that .. lol well I hope your correct in there I have nothing to worry about. I will continue on as if it’s just an inconvenient prostrate issue. My doctor says chronic prostrate issues can be brought on by stress....   thank you for your time. 
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
66 months ago
yes, similar to hand to genital transmission, we don't believe that that is a risk. 
For now, a good idea to move on.  If any abnormal skin lesions come up, obviously have them evaluated, but I'm guessing that they will not.

Terri
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