[Question #6756] DR HHHSpeaking telling nurse how to do blood draw zero risk hhh hiv hep c b

14 months ago
Dear doc hunter thank for you the prestige service you provide I believe reading your replies I’m risk free I’m only just doing this for peace of mind and clarity 
For info : my concern is not of needle re use from previous client as I know my needle was new since nurse opened the package Infront of me when I went for blood draw .

My question : Is  speaking / telling / instructing nurse on 
How to do blood draw before or during blood draw starts that may have changed nurse technique  has never put patient at risk for hiv hepatitis b c even if nurse  drawing blood is infected with hiv hepatitis b c.?  

Scanning past replies  in forum I believe it’s no risk 

1) I got a little nervous (JUST got pregnant )  and spoke / told / instructed the nurse on how to do my blood draw  
Dr hhh you have said if I  spoke /told nurse how to do blood draw in a certain method/technique  this  may  increase the chance of unsuccessful blood draw such as  nurse might miss a vein or the blood draw may be painful but It will never put me at risk for hiv hepatitis b c Even if the nurse  drawing my blood has hiv hepatitis b c
 . So therefore if even if I was  speaking /telling the nurse on how I wanted my blood draw I was not at risk for hiv hepatitis b c  if feared nurse would make a mistake during blood draw because nurse technique might have changed because of me ? 

2) Conclusion  : no on gets hiv hepatitis b c from blood draw  even IF the patient is speaking / Instructing to  the nurse on  how to do blood draw during or before blood draw starts  that may have changed the nurse technique/method of blood draw  even if the nurse who is drawing blood has hiv hepatitis b c  the worst outcome will  only be PAIN during procedure or nurse might miss a vein . So I’m not at risk for hiv hepatitis b c from the blood draw I had and never will be in future even if I instructed nurse on how to do blood draw  ? 

3) MAJOR POINT : Further you have said that only way one gets hiv hepatitis b c from blood draw is  if needle was Re used  from previous patient  that obviously did not happen because the nurse opened a new package infront of me  so this makes my blood draw risk free from hiv hepatitis b c  even if I told /instructed the  nurse how to do my blood draw and even if the drawing my blood  nurse is infected  ? .

14 months ago
I did scan the forum but please do rely to specific points 1 to 3 

Thank you for even reading this for me 
14 months ago
I meant please do reply for point 1 to 3 

For info : I had blood draw with butterfly needle when I was instructing the nurse So no risk for any virus

Even if I had blood draw with standard syringe and instructed nurse how to do blood draw risk for would be zero again
The brand or types of needles make no difference 

Thank you for the service 

Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
14 months ago
Welcome to our forum. Thanks for your questions. FYI, Dr. Handsfield and I share the forum and take turns replying to questions. On this occasion I happened to pick up your question. We have worked together for nearly 40 years and never differ in our advice although our verbal styles may vary. I do understand that when a person is pregnant their anxieties and concerns not only for their own health but for the health of their unborn child is greater. I will do my best to help.

1.  You appear to wish for me to confirm statements 1–3. You are correct, there is no reason to instruct a healthcare professional in how to draw blood. They are highly trained and skillful. As you mention instruction of the sort you describe may make them nervous and cause them to miss the vein. Even if this is the case, there is no increased risk forHIV, hepatitis, or other infections.  Thus, even if you insist on trying to instruct your nursing how to draw your blood it will not increase your nonexistent risk for infection.

2.  Correct. No one gets HIV or hepatitis from having their blood run by a professional. Even in the most unusual circumstance where the person drawing the blood might have HIV or hepatitis there would be no risk from the drawing your blood.

3.  Correct again. The only way persons acquire HIV or hepatitis from having their blood drawn is if the needle is being reused after being used on a person with one of those infections. Single use needles that are opened before you are a entirely no risk device.

As you summarize in your follow up, the way that your blood was drawn using a standard syringe and a butterfly needle was a no risk event for HIV or hepatitis. The brand of or types of needles make no difference at all. I hope this information is helpful to you. Please don’t worry. Congratulations on your pregnancy. EWH
Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
14 months ago
We have become aware that you are likely a repeat visitor asking questions which have been repeatedly addressed in the past.  Therefore this thread in now being closed.  If you are not a repeat user, please contact the site administrator and clarify this fact.  EWH ---