[Question #6962] Am I ok part 2

10 months ago
Hello my last question was on my other account that sadly I was locked out of. 

Question #6952


So I come with a follow up and extra detail since my mind can not stop worrying especially since I had more questions about the plasma donation testing process.

First this is about the risk even that involved the individual that I said is a Plasma Donor.
So first of he donated Jan 27 , Feb 3, March 3 and 14. He was also ANTIBODY finger prick tested between Feb 3 and March 3rd.

Now looking into the donation center (Grifols I was given permission to say which was his center) it said that all donors are screened with a NAT test but it also says every donation is given a serological test for ANTIBODIES. So I'm unsure if every donation is a NAT or not, I'm assuming not.


Next, as I mentioned before I took an ORAQUICK swab test at 5 and 9 weeks to negative results and at 10 weeks given a finger prick ANTIBODY test to again a negative result.  I do have a blood test I was encouraged to get by my local health clinic (they go by the 3 month standard I was told is not the case anymore according to many)

Keep in mind my risk event was oral (which I was told was NOT a risk for HIV) and ATTEMPTED anal penetration. As by I put in my top at most for 20 seconds or less and was completely flaccid with no precum only my saliva. 


So my big question which I can follow up on if any details are needed is this ; given my three negative tests, his non deffered status, and the relatively low risk (I assume) of what we did. Was I ever at risk? And are my test conclusive?  Or do I truly have something to worry about?

10 months ago
An extra question, is the serological test for antibodies given at these centers any more or any less sensetive than the ones available at local health clinics such as the one I took?
10 months ago
Another update my 10 weeks is technically 9.7-.8 weeks but I was told to round up since there is no real difference
Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
10 months ago

I'm sorry  to see that you feel the need to return to the Forum with what are largely repetitive questions.  You are seriously overthinking this.  As I said in our earlier exchange, "Bottom line, based on multiple lines of evidence, you can be confident that you did not get HIV from either of the encounters you describe.  Your 10 week test results will be conclusive.  Once those results are available there is no reason for further testing."  this answer is not going to change.

I do not know if every plasma donation is checked for HIV or if this only happens periodically.  That however is irrelevant given that nature of your exposure and your own test results. 

The three month recommendation for HIV antibody testing is seriously out of date.  Anyone who is making this recommendation is out of date and/or overly conservative and has forgotten the anxiety and anguish that drawing out the recommendations for testing can cause for persons such as yourself.  As I said before, there is no need for continued testing.

The serological tests for HIV done at plasma centers is equally sensitive to the other HIV laboratory tests.   All FDA cleared tests for HIV are held to the same performance standard.

Correct, no meaningful difference between 10 weeks and 9.7 weeks.

I urge you to stay off the internet, to stop worrying and to move forward.  I hope that my comments will help you to do that.  EWH

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10 months ago
As I had said my finger prick was at 10 (9.7) weeks and it was negative and you said it was conclusive, it was a rapid finger test that took ten minutes and it worried me as to whether or not that made any difference.  I did take another blood test (full vein draw) at the same time because my health clinic encouraged me which is why I'm under such heavy stress and dismay.   And again as you said there was virtually no risk, but the one part about my risk that scares me is me "putting my tip in for less than 20 seconds with nothing but saliva and not erect." And wonder if that changes my chances.


So my follow up question is

Are my oraquick at 9.5 weeks and my finger prick antibody test 10 week conclusive?  And was there a need to have that blood test that I was heavily goaded into by my health clinic? 
And 2 does the slight tip insertion change my chances
Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
10 months ago

You are, once again, repeating yourself.  Did you think I didn't read your earlier descriptions?  I did.  he result is the same.  The fingerstick test performs the same as the test of venous blood.  The results are not going to change.

My question is did you read my reply?  I repeat- "The three month recommendation for HIV antibody testing is seriously out of date.  Anyone who is making this recommendation is out of date and/or overly conservative and has forgotten the anxiety and anguish that drawing out the recommendations for testing can cause for persons such as yourself.  As I said before, there is no need for continued testing."

Your slight insertion is IRRELEVANT.  the test results PROVE that you were not infected.  Really.  EWH

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10 months ago
Thank you, I was just worried if my finger prick test was different from others since it was a rapid finger prick test and I was told that it was different from other finger pricks.



 As you can tell I'm sadly very un educated about this and I'm overly anxious about this entire thing.  I apologise if my questions come off as overly paranoid or repetitive, I just wanted to make sure that I covered all my bases and make sure I didn't leave a single stone left unturned since Ive never been in this situation and am more terrified than I have ever been in my life especially for something like this where I will honestly admit was a mistake and a misjudgment when I'm usually very careful, I was just terrified that I was going to be punished for what was a mistake.  Again I apologise and I'm grateful for the answers.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
10 months ago

You will be fine.  Believe your tests. 

this is my 3rd response to this thread.  Thus, as per Forum guidelines, the thread will be closed without further responses.  Let me also remind you that persons asking repeated, anxiety driven questions may have subsequent questions deleted without a response and without return of the posting fee.  Repeated questions are of little value to clients or to others who may visit the site to learn more about STIs and HIV.  Thus our policy on repeat questions is a reflection of concern for you, nothing more.  I trust you will understand.  Please don't worry.  EWH

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