[Question #7559] Clinical experience regarding GHSV1 genital to genital transmission
55 months ago
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Hello I'm trying to help a family member who recently acquired GHSV1 from oral sex. She has been to several doctors and received conflicting information. I came across an article from an online magazine called "Hairpin" in which Dr. Handsfield was quoted as saying that he had never seen a case, to his knowledge, of genital to genital HSV1 transmission. It seems like there is no real data about this type of transmission so I will ask what your personal experience has been as a healthcare provider and if this quote is accurate? She's had a tough time of it because her primary outbreak was quite severe (the worst her doctor had ever seen), had several recurrences(within the first 3 months) and trouble tolerating Valtrex. So if it is true that you have never seen genital to genital HSV1 transmission, this could offer a bit of good news that could be reassuring - especially since suppression therapy may not be a viable option for her.
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
55 months ago
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I also have never seen a case of genital to genital transmission of HSV 1. I should alter that to say this: every time I've diagnosed a patient with genital HSV 1, they state they have received oral sex in the 10 days prior to their diagnosis. And I've diagnosed literally thousands of people with genital HSV 1 infections. it is unusual to have many recurrences of genital HSV 1 though the first few months should not be considered representative of the future with this infection. it takes the immune system a while to get familiar with the virus and when it does, recurrences will slow. In terms of medication - I would suggest that she start by breaking the 500 mg tabs in half and take one half at bedtime for a while if the medicine is bothering her. I believe she will gradually become accustomed to the medication and will do better over time. Viral shedding of genital HSV 1 also decreases greatly over time. And because half the population already has HSV 1, she is not likely to infect others. Please let me know how else we can help
Terri Warren
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55 months ago
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When the primary outbreak happened, she took valtrex for 10 days and started to feel better (but like I said her outbreak was quite severe). However, within a few days it either came back or really didn’t go away and she was prescribed 30 days of valtrex - She started experiencing horrible insomnia and panic attacks. She thought it could be the medication or the trauma of the event. But it did finally go away. However two months later she had sex and the very next day she had a recurrence. She took Valtrex for five days and again had horrible insomnia and panic attacks and stopped the medication. She felt like it took a really long time to heal - like 6-8 weeks. She’s afraid to take Valtrex again even though the doctor wanted her to go on suppressive therapy. Have you heard of others having this experience? I think she really wants to avoid taking Valtrex but of course she doesn’t want to spread something to potential partners so that's why I was asking about your experience with genital to genital transmission. She was also wondering if she could safely receive oral sex without transmitting HSV1 to someone’s mouth. I’ve read the posts and it looks like there’s no real data but again from your experience have you ever seen that?
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
55 months ago
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I've never heard of Valtrex causing those side effects myself. Neither of them actually, Herpes outbreaks don't last 6-8 weeks, so I am wondering what else might be going on with her that might be confused with a herpes outbreak. It might be worth her going back for an exam when she feels she is having an outbreak. Just to be certain.
If someone already has oral herpes (cold sores) there is no risk of someone giving her oral sex. If someone gives her oral sex who does not have oral herpes, there is a small risk of them becoming infected orally.
Terri
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55 months ago
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Back to my original inquiry to Dr. Handsfield’s quote regarding not seeing genital to genital HSV1 transmission to his knowledge - I’m assuming you know that to be an accurate statement? Also, would you say one is more likely to acquire HSV1 orally from kissing or from performing oral sex on a person with genital HSV1 outside an outbreak? And have you personally diagnosed a person who got oral HSV1 from performing oral sex? Thanks!
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
55 months ago
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Neither Dr. Handsfield nor I have ever seen someone who did NOT receive oral sex and acquired HSV 1 genitally through intercourse only. I also have not seen someone who has acquired oral HSV 1 by giving oral sex to someone else who has genital HSV 1. That's because HSV 1 genitally is very infrequently shed from the genital tract. the usual way to get oral herpes is someone kissing someone who has the cold sore virus, whether there is a lesion or not present.
Terri
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55 months ago
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Since genital to genital transmission of GHSV1 is so rare and maybe not possible, what is your opinion about disclosing ? People might not understand that GHSV1 is not GHSV2 even if you try to tell them - it seems so awkward and maybe not necessary. I’ve seen the experts on this forum give differing opinions so it’s confusing. Also what dose of Lysine would you recommend?
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
55 months ago
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Opinions about disclosing HSV 1 vary greatly between providers. I don't have a perfect answer. In general, I think it's not always necessary to disclose, but the issue is this: Though transmission is very unlikely, what about trust? If a sexual relationship becomes more long term, this is a secret that may be uncomfortable to keep in a trusting relationship. I'm so sorry, I don't have the perfect answer.
I don't recommend Lysine.
Terri
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