[Question #7821] Dr Hunter only to answer plz ! Discarded needle world

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52 months ago

Hello doctor Hunter I would like you to help me because this is YOUR WORDS just want to ask  no risk from discarded syringes or anything else . I need you to get me out of this plz.

1) discarded syringes: According to you doctor hunter that hepatitis b c or hiv have not been transmitted  by injury/ prick  from discarded needle/ syringes that may cause bleeding  anywhere in environment so I’m free to move  about in clinic, hospitals or parks or anywhere  Because you have said to your knowledge transmission hiv hepatitis  b c from discarded syringe /needle have not known to have happened .

2) I just  reconfirmed WITH two of my professional doctor  they also say that injury with discarded nesdle /syringe  that may cause bleeding have never known to cause hiv hepatitis b c  Anywhere in the world 
So that being said i don’t need to worry about discarded syringe /needle causing hiv or hepatitis b c   In unllikely event may I also belive my doctors ? I think I should 

3) you have said to avoid hiv hepatitis b c just don’t have unprotected sex and don’t share needle/syringes for INJECTION and no other precaution are needed PERIOD . So that should further give confidence that discarded syringe Injury is not something we should worry about for hiv hepatitis b c ?

4)  you wrote don’t share drug injection equipment the word drug injection equipment means  RE use of needle , syringes and no other objects correct ?  . So since I never  RE use needle or syringes I don’t need to worry about hiv hepatitis c  .THIS I READ from your past message 

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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
52 months ago
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your confidence in our services. FYI, I'm answering because I (and not Dr. Hook) was in line for the next question that would come in, not because of your request. As clearly described in the FAQs, users do not select the moderators who respond. In any case, Dr. Hook's and my expertise are identical:  his replies would have been the same as mine.

Also thanks for reviewing other threads with issues you are concerned about. You've done such a great job that I see no questions in your comments -- just correct citations of various staements you have found in other discussions about risk of HIV and other blood borne infections from discarded needles or other sharp instruments. All your statements are correct, and it seems you understand you are not at significant risk from such exposures. I'm also glad to see your own doctors agree:  of course you can believe them.

If you have a particular event in mind, such as possible contact with a sharp instrument in the environment -- or other potentially risky event -- I would be happy to evaluate it and provide guidance. In the meantime, I hope this reply is helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.

HHH, MD
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52 months ago


DR Hunter thank you for your polite reply THIS WILL CHANGE MY LIFE TODAY  .Although you  say CORRECT to all statements so I’m sure answer cannot change
Plz reply to  my specific questions point by point  as will  highlight  and see my NOTE it will Assure me plz don’t get annoyed :/

 question 1 to 3 below 

1) IMPORTANT POINT : 

I basically get worried  when I visit clinics /hospital  Health care setting or public setting stepping on needle fear or sitting or any other injury form discarded syringe /needle to my hand that may cause bleeding and penetrate the skin  but my doctors assured me no risk for ALL THREE  viruses  hiv hepatitis b c  if one got injury /needle prick /needle stick caused by discarded syringe /needle anywhere in the world as it’s not known to cause transmission  so I should CONTINUE to believe  them for all
three viruses hiv hepatitis b c  ?


2) so this is final to your knowledge and my doctors  no case of hiv hepatitis b c if a person got injured / needle prick from   discarded syringe / needle that  causes bleeding  or any Other injury  discarded syringe/needle anywhere in the world or in the environment this is TRUE FOR hepatitis C and B  and not just hiv ? This is true for all three viruses /blood borne infections 


3)don’t share needles / syringes to inject with or unprotected sex you will never get hiv hepatitis b c .. so forget about discarded syringe needle 
Just wanted to clarify  the word drug injection equipment means needle and syringes and no other objects correct  ?


Please  note : I just got a little worried about transmission of hepatitis  B  and C caused by discarded  needle /syringe. I found only one PAST message where you said 
Hepatitis c is also no risk . So plz just verify that  hepatitis b c again and I will consider myself clear


Let’s move forward 

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52 months ago
To clarify this injury  from any discarded drug injection  equipment has never caused hiv hepatitis b c If one encountered it 

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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
52 months ago
Thanks for clarifying some specific questions on your mind. You probably can predict my replies, but here goes:

1) Yes. You should continue to believe your doctors, and the advice on this forum, that there is no significant risk for all three viruses:  HIV, HBV, and HCV.

2) In theory, there could be risk if a discarded needle had just been used (within hours) and you stepped on it with deep skin penetration. However, this is a very unlikely scenario and there have been no reports of such infections in the medical literature. (There is also a risk you'll someday be struck and killed by a meterorite. But I would not advise you to take any precautions against it.)

3) Correct. Needles and syringes are the only items that might carry theoretical risk. Other injection equipment (e.g., drug containers, tourniquets, or other paraphernalia of drug use) carry no risk.

Your last question ("To clarify....") repeats the same question question. There is nothing to clarify:  the statement is correct.
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52 months ago
Appreciate the reply because of my PHOBIA I need to read words hepatitis b c Just so that I know you talking about same thing please see point 3 for future worries 

1) Final statement I have understood that if a person got injury / prick from  any discarded drug injection equipment (needle / syringes ) it has  not transmitted  hiv hepatitis b c anywhere in the world in public or healthcare setting . Further you have said biological reasons don’t matter what matters is that such transmission have not occurred  for all three viruses HIV hepatitis B and C . So I don’t need to worry anymore ? 

2) for point 2 in your reply where you say no where in medical literature such infections have been reported. YOU mean to say NO where injury / needle prick that cause bleeding  from discarded drug injection equipment (syringe /needle )have caused HIV HEPATITIS C or B all three blood borne infections in unlikely event if one came in contact  with used needle /syringe  as my doctors told me correct  ? 

3) This important medhelp  : to avoid hiv hepatitis b c for rest of my life just don’t share needles /syringes and don’t have unprotected sex with other people I will never get hiv hepatitis b c  and forget about all other risks . 

4) further drug injection equipment you say don’t share that means the same thing NEEDLES ,syringes that’s it and NO other objects I need to worry about in terms on hiv hepatitis b c transmission  as stated in point 3 .

4b) if I apply point number 3 no risk For   Other risks I can imagine or any medical procedure , surgery for e.g I’m at the dentist who is hiv hepatitis positive  and dentist used a cotton ball that has blood on it in my mouth  to stop the bleeding if I got my tooth extracted  
Or any other future risk no risk for hiv 

hepatitis b c because we did not share needles neither did we have sex so that’s why we can not get hiv hepatitis b c  as stated in point number 3 


I am down to the last reply i believe I can apply point number 3 to all my future worries . If any issue may I come back to you one last time in future . 

Thank you 

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52 months ago
Apologies I noticed may have gone above world limit didn’t want to return again to bug you

Plz answer all points

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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
52 months ago
I'm sorry, but you cannot expect me to keep repeating the same answers in different words just because you have a phobia that needs certain kinds of statements. All your statements above show that you understand -- intellectually if not emotionally -- that the various exposure events you mention carry no measurable risk of HIV, HCV, HBV, or any other blood borne infection. In particular, statement 3 is correct:  "to avoid hiv hepatitis b c for rest of my life just don’t share needles /syringes and don’t have unprotected sex with other people I will never get hiv hepatitis b c  and forget about all other risks . "

"If any issue may I come back to you one last time in future":  Please do not do that. This forum is not intended for repeated reassurance when the issue is emotional or psychological. It wastes the moderators' time and provides no educational value for other users when people return to hear the same answers again and again. And indeed we know it doesn't even help the user him/herself:  such anxieties are not resolved by simply hearing the facts one more time. Thank you for your understanding.

That completes the two follow-up exchanges included with each question and so ends this thread. I do hope the discussion has been useful.


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