[Question #7827] NGU / chlamydia / something else?

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51 months ago
I had unprotected anal sex with a man (I topped) on April 2. Within the same week, I had unprotected sex with a longtime female partner who had not had sex for months, and she insisted on very slow, motionless sex that a very long time before I was able to ejaculate. It required me to do a lot of kegel-type muscle constriction to stay hard, and also produced a lot of friction on my frenulum. 
2-3 days later, I was noticing some pretty intense stinging pain when I peed. I assumed it was related to overstimulation of my penis from the long slow vaginal sex. But I’ve kept having a string of symptoms I’m worried may be an STI from the anal sex. 
I’ve never experienced any discharge, except what I think is just pre-ejaculate (like waking up with an erection and finding a large whitish stain in my dark underwear). I’ve noticed a lot more of this dried fluid in my underwear than I usually notice, but I’ve also been looking for it. No discharge at any time when I was peeing or if I tried to “express” any from my penis.  Only after I knew I had been aroused or had an erection. 
My understanding is that gonorrhea nearly always presents with discharge, so I assume that’s not the issue. I worry about the likelihood of chlamydia or another NGU infection. What started as a strong burning/stinging sensation mellowed into a more warm/tickling feeling. These painful and/or sensitive tingles only occur when I pee or right after. I’ve also started to notice other symptoms. In the past 3-4 days, I’ve been having split streams of urine when I pee. 
Sometimes I have had three separate streams at once (which usually converge into one after a few seconds). I’ve also noticed some warmth / tickling / aching in my prostate area. I’ve wondered for a while if I have some light prostatitis... and now these symptoms feel like prostate issues more than STI related. 
What are your thoughts?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
51 months ago
Welcome to the forum. Thank you for your confidence in our services.

Thanks as well for your careful and detailed medical history. As I started reading, my thought was that urethritis is unlikely, and wondering -- as you did -- about minor trauma or perhaps chemical irritation. (Spermicides and soap -- commonly used as lubrication in masturbation -- can cause acutely painful urination.) However, onset 3 days later is more consistent with urethritis. In addition, it sounds like you may well be having abnormal discharge, even if only apparent after erection. Finally, the continuing discomfort plus split urine stream are consistent with urethritis.

Although true that gonorrhea usually causes obvious discharge in large amount -- typically overt pus dripping from the penis -- there are plenty of exceptions. So although chlamydia or NGU are more likely, gonorrhea is definitely in play. And insertive anal sex with male partners is just about the highest risk for all these of all sexual practices.

So you should see a knowledgeable health care provider ASAP. If you are familiar with and/or have access to a physician or clinic with particulare expreience in STD and/or care for men who have sex with men, that would be ideal. Depending on where you are, a local or state health department STD clinic would also be an excellent choice. Evaluation should include testing for gonorrhea and chlamydia; careful exam for discharge; and a urethral swab for microscopic exam. And probably treatment. And be prepared to discuss the situation with both partners.

I hope this information is helpful. I look forward to hearing more after you've been evaluated and perhaps treated. 

HHH, MD
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51 months ago
Thanks for your helpful response. 

So, based on your interpretation, you would say it’s very highly likely that I have an STI of some kind? Would you say it’s all all likely that I do NOT have one, or should I brace myself for an inevitable diagnosis?

This may be outside the purview of what you have expertise in, but do you think the symptoms could be at all indicative of prostatitis instead?  Or is that likely to be “wishful thinking” on my part?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
51 months ago
Most likely you have an STI, i.e. gonorrhea, chlamydia, or non-gonococcal/non-chlamydial urethritis (NGU); you need to assume this until and unless disproved by proper medical evaluation and testing.

Some bu tnot all your symptoms could be due to prostatitis, but probably not the split urine stream:  that implies a problen in the urethra and not further upstream. If you have had prostatitis previously and the symptoms are similar, that would raise the chance. But even then, you clearly need the STI evaluation ASAP, both for your own health and well being and that of both partners. And by the way, your evaluation should include HIV and syphilis testing:  although too soon for either to be positive from your recent encounters, they are always included in routine STI evaluation -- and also will need to be repeated ~6 weeks after the second exposure.

Threads normally include just two follow-up exchanges after the initial question. So I suggest we hold off on further discussion until you've been medically evaluated.
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51 months ago
I had planned to follow your advice and only use my third reply after I’ve been tested. But I have an unexpected “complication,” and I wanted to know how best to handle the situation. (I’ll just order another question later if needed.)

I checked in with the woman who I had sex with, but I didn’t disclose my concern about the STD possibility yet. It turns out, she’s currently taking a round of antibiotics for a respiratory infection/stomach bug. She thinks it’s viral but her doctor prescribed 875 mg of amoxicillin with 125 mg of Clavu(...?) Potassium - 20 tablets to be taken twice daily. 

If I have a bacterial STD which I passed to her, would her round of antibiotics either:
1) Treat the presence of gonorrhea/chlamydia/other NGU, or
2) Make it HARDER to treat the STD?

I know that antibiotic resistant strains of STDs are a concern and I’m worried now that her current prescription could affect later treatment if needed. 

Also, since I’m using my last reply, I have a final question. I have noticed in the last 24-48 hours that my symptoms have largely subsided, and they’ve been wildly different from day to day for a few weeks. Is it normal for STD symptoms to subside on their own? I find conflicting info online about whether STD symptoms “come and go.”
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
51 months ago
Amoxicillin/clavulanate probably would prevent gonorrhea, but not for sure; but could interfere with accurate gonorrhea testing. It would not cure or reliably prevent chlamyida, and might or might not interfere with testing. It would have no effect on other causes of NGU. No matter what your diagnosis, she'll need to be informed. But it woudn't make an of them any more difficult to treat.

Most infections in humans are eventually cleared by the immune system. (In the pre-antibiotic era, 90% of people with bacterial pneumonia survived). Any of the infections you're likely to have could be resolving spontaneously. Resolution this quickly (~4 weeks) may slightly favor gonorrhea.

The sooner you are profesionally evaluated, the better. I'll leave the thread open for one more cycle -- which I hope will be your report of exam and testing.
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51 months ago
I got tested: confirmed chlamydia infection. I’ve taken azithromycin. The man who infected me is being treated, and the woman I had sex with after is confirming whether she needs treatment. 

I do have a few extra concerns. 

1) I thought I would receive the antibiotic as a series of pills (the doctor who examined me said it would be four 250mg pills). Instead, I got a powder. I was worried it would be a horrible flavor, so I drank it in a glass of chocolate milk instead of water. Now I’m wondering if that was safe to do? Would have have reduced the antibiotic’s effectiveness?

2) My female partner and I were planning to meet and possibly have intercourse this coming weekend. But if she doesn’t take her azithromycin till Monday or Tuesday, will that be too soon to resume sex safely? Or is that a big risk for reinfection? (She will also still be on Augmentin till Saturday, if that makes a difference.)

3) Do we need to have any follow up testing some weeks or months later? How likely is it that the antibiotic won’t successfully clear the infection and we still end up being infected after the medicine leaves our system?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
51 months ago
Sorry you have chlamydia, but glad to hear the situation has now been clarified and everyone is being proerly treated. However, azithromycin is no more than 80% reliable for rectal infection; your male partner should have been given doxycycline for 7 days. And ideally women should also receive doxy (100% reliable) in preference to azithromycin (90-95%). CDC will be revising revised STD treatment guidelines in the next few months, and doxycycline will become the primary recommended treatment for chlamydia, especially in women; and the only treatment advised when rectal infection is present or suspected.

1)  The standard dose is 1 gram, single dose -- either powder or tablets. The powder form of azithro is standard in many clinics and equally effective as the tablets. Mixing it with milk (chlocolate or plain) shouldn't reduce effectivenss. However,

2) Standard practice is to wait a week after treatment before resuming sex, and that is what I would recommend.

3) Retesting at about 3 weeks is a good idea in anyone treated with azithromycin, and I would recommend that all three of you be retested 3 weeks from now. That includes your female partner even if her current test is negative -- which is likely because of the amox/clav she is taking. Another routine recommendation is that anyone with chlamydia be retested about 3 months later. As just noted, treatment failure isn't rare (even with doxycycline, many people don't hang in with the full 7 day treatment schedule); and in people who remain sexually active, whether with the same or other partners, have high frequencies of reinfection in the next several weeks. 
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51 months ago
Thank you. The male partner did receive doxycycline. I don’t know what my female partner has been prescribed, I just assumed azithromycin because I knew the doxycycline was for the rectal treatment. 

I think Im technically out of questions, but since this is still listed as active... when you say to wait a week after treatment, if she receives doxycycline, do we need to wait a week *after* she completes the antibiotics or just however many days she’s on the medicine?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
51 months ago
It's probably safe to have sex together right away, while she is taking doxycycline. Howver, 10-15% of the time, chlamydial NGU symptoms persist and evaluation is more confusing if someone has potentially been reexposed, for example to the unknown causes of nonchlamydial NGU. So things could be confusing if symptoms persist. Most likely nothing bac would happen, but standard advice is no sex until several days after both partners have completed treatment -- so ideally roughly 2 weeks from start of her doxycycline.

Indeed we are well beyond the usual two follow-up exchanges, so that will have to conclude this thread. I hope it has been helpful.
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