[Question #7843] No one gets hiv hepatitis from blood draw/injection home visit
51 months ago
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Hello dr Hunter I have very common question to ask I wasn’t able to find answer I’m sure Please provide REASSURANCE to all points it will give the push i need kind sir.MY ENGLISH IS WEAK.
1) when you have mentioned no one gets hiv or hepatitis b & c from blood draw anywhere I’m assuming this is true for blood draws When the nurse visit your home and does the blood draw on me even if the nurse is infected with these virues ?
i am worried the nurse did not bring special blood draw desk that you have in hospitals i was told they don’t bring furniture where you can place your arm so im assuming im safe and its within protocol ? . The nurse did the blood draw on my sofa I had NO arm rest & my arm was in the air so no Risk with such blood draw technique at my home I was told it’s allowed ?
2) all I want to know I can have blood draw or injection anywhere at my home when nurse visits ? Like my sofa or bed if my arm is resting on any surface or not it doesnt matter the special blood draw desk or chair that you have in hospitals is not needed when nurse comes to your home to do blood draw on you?
so I am not at risk for hiv or hepatits c &b from the nurse and same applies for injections ?
3)All of my above points are not a risk for hiv hepatitis because the only way we get hiv hepatitis is if nurse re used the needle from previous client which obviously did not happen. So points 1 ,2 are not a risk for hiv hepatitis even if the nurse has these infections(hiv & hepatitis c ,b) . Or any other risks I can imagine during blood draw .
4)same applies for future injections as well ? I have one two other things to ask
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
51 months ago
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Welcome to our forum. thanks for your question. I happened to be on line when your question arrived so you are getting a response somewhat more rapidly than is typical. Follow-up responses may take longer. In response to your questions:
1. HIV and hepatitis are NOT acquired as a result of drawing blood, no matter where it is performed. These infections occur when blood or infected material is INJECTED deep into your body, not when it is removed through blood draws. Special equipment is not required. Drawing blood from a person in their home rather than in a hospital or clinical does not represent a threat when performed by a trained professional.
2. Having your blood drawn anywhere in your home that is convenient is fine, in a chair, on a sofa, in the bed, etc. Still no risk.
3. Correct. Even if the person drawing your blood has HIV or hepatitis, having your blood drawn by them does not represent a risk as long as standard, routine procedures are used.
4. Correct. Injections given in the home are safe, as long as the needle is not removed.
I hope that his information is helpful. If anything is unclear, you have up to two additional follow-up questions. EWH
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51 months ago
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Thank you for the rapid response kind sir I would like to clarify following point number 4 is important
1)when you say special equipment is not required : I meant that blood draw desk /table we have hospitals is not needed in home visits because there was no place where I could keep my arm . When nurse did my blood draw at home my arm was In the air and in future I can place my arm anywhere for home blood draws using my home furniture ? no risk for hiv hepatitis even if nurse is infected
2) protocol for home blood draw is nurse will bring needle ,gauze and bandid there is NO need to bring furniture desk where you can place you arm ? . What’s the protocol. ? I can place my arm anywhere without the arm rest ?
3) I told the nurse to do my blood draw the way I wanted . So even though nurse techinique /method might have changed that will never put me at risk for hiv hepatitis b c if nurse /doctor is infected with these viruses even if I instructed the nurse how I wanted my blood draw or injection in future .
4) dr Hunter says all I need to remember in future is that ONLY WAY we get hiv hepatitis b c from blood draw or injection is that if nurse re used the needle and that hasn’t happened in 30 years . So points 1 to 3 are no risk for hiv hepatitis b & c as their irrelevant
5) conclusion : no one gets hiv hepatitis b c from blood draw or injection when nurse comes to visit your home or anywhere else
6) general question: you have said hiv hepatitis b c are non infectious immediately on air exposure in wet blood or wet bodily fluids so objects that are outside the body cannot cause infection .
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
51 months ago
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1. I understood your original question. No special blood draw equipment including a blood draw chair or table is required. There is no risk for HIV from having your blood drawn while sitting in or having your arm placed on furniture at home.
2. See my response above. Your nurse will follow standard procedures in drying your blood.
3. I would suggest that you allow the nurse to draw your blood in the way she was trained. I suspect you are not a trained professional and should not be telling the nurse how to do her job. As I said in my original reply, even if the nurse were infected with HIV or hepatitis there would be no risk to you from having her draw your blood.
4. Correct
5. Correct.
6. Correct
EWH
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51 months ago
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1) to be clear “sitting in “ means my arm during blood draw at home was in the air when nurse inserted the needle in my arm So no risk for hiv hepatitis b c with such a technique ?
2) I’m saying my arm was not placed on any surface and was hanging in the air during blood draw at home so im not at risk for any virus ?
3) plz clear this sometimes nurses touch the injection site again after appplying alcohol swab . so I always tell the nurse not to do this so as we know telling nurse or any health care worker on how to do blood draw or injection will not increase risk for hiv hepatitis b ,c even if nurse or any health care worker has these infections (hiv hepatitis b c ) so I’m safe .
3b) if nurse is infected and has cut on finger and she touched my vein (injection site )before inserting needle for blood draw or injection. No risk for hiv hepatitis b c because wet blood has Been exposed to air and these viruses become non infectious out the body .
4) can I let nurse touch my injection site, feel vein after they have applied alcohol swab with or without gloves it’s no risk for hiv hepatitis c in future ?
5) hiv hepatitis b c is non infectious outside body immediately in the wet bodily fluids . Bodily fluids include breast milk, vaginal fluid , semen etc correct ?
6) regardless of what I instructed to health care worker we don’t get hiv hepatitis from blood draw or injection . At home or anywhere even if health care worker is infected with these viruses(hiv HCV HBV)
Thank you
51 months ago
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For point typo 3 b I meant become non infectious “OUTSIDE” the body immediately
51 months ago
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And it’s BODY FLUIDS that are non infectious not” bodily” I made a typing error please clarify that as it’s last reply
51 months ago
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I apologise read in your past reply you call them BODILY fluids for e.g semen (cum) in question 5 I have mentioned do clear that out
51 months ago
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When we say bodily fluids we mean vaginal fluid and also other fluids such as saliva , Urine
Or any other
Plz do mention this for all these viruses in point 5
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
51 months ago
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Sigh. Your multiple follow-ups over the past few hours indicate your anxiety over having had your blood drawn and you’re misunderstanding of how HIV and hepatitis B and C viruses are transmitted. HIV and hepatitis viruses are transmitted only by direct sexual contact or injection of infected material deep into tissue. They are not transmitted through any of the Situations you have repeatedly described in your anxiety-driven posts. Nothing you have said suggest that you are in any way at risk for HIV or hepatitis B or C from having your blood drawn in the home setting. You need to get over your concerns and move forward.
Bodily fluids means just that- this includes saliva, urine, vaginal and other genital secretions, ejaculate, breast milk, etc.
It is best for the person drawing your blood to not touch the vein with their finger following cleansing the area where the blood will be drawn with an alcohol swab.
This reply completes this thread. The thread will be closed shortly without further replies. Please understand that nothing you have described in your multiple, repetitive posts suggests any risk whatsoever for HIV or hepatitis B or C. You need to stop worrying and move forward. Please note that we prohibit repetitive, anxiety driven questions and should you post on this topic again your questions may be deleted without a reply and without return of your posting fee. This policy is in place I’m out of concern for you and your mental health, nothing more. I hope the information I have provided has been helpful. Take care. EWH
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