[Question #8008] Testing With Sore Throat
50 months ago
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Hello sorry to be back I wanted to clear something up.
My sore throat started last week on Monday. I tested that Friday (4-5 days after it started) and my throat was still sore. The test was negative, but my sore throat didn’t end until yesterday. (10 days after it began and 6 days after testing). Does that mean my sore throat has nothing to do with ARS? Or should I test again now that my sore throat is over? Basically I want to know with symptomatic HIV, can tests become positive while ars symptoms are still present or do you have to wait for them to be gone to test and have it be reliable?
Also could I take an RNA test at 20 or 21 days and have it be somewhat reassuring?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
50 months ago
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Welcome back, but sorry you found it necessary.
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I reviewed your recent discussions with Dr. Hook and agree with all he said. The direct answer to your question is yes: if your sore throat were due to HIV, your blood test would have been positive. The symptoms of new HIV infection are caused by the immune response to the virus, not HIV itself. Therefore, you cannot have HIV symptoms with a negative antibody test. In addition, new HIV almost never causes sore throat as the main or only symptom; if you had it, you would have several other symptoms as well, primarily skin rash, inflamed lymph nodes, and/or fever. Finally, you had both a partner and an exposure that were essentially free of HIV risk. There is simply no chance you have HIV.
Could you have an RNA test? Sure. But I don't recommend it. However, if negative it would further confirm your symptoms are not caused by HIV.
I hope these comments help you move along the path to understanding an believing you don't have HIV! Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
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50 months ago
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Thank you unfortunately I ran into an issue at the lab where they were confused by my req form and couldn’t immediately label my tube until I left so I don’t entirely trust my results so I likely will test again. The highest my temperature got was 100.1 and for only an hour or so.
When you say my exposure was essentially no risk, do you mean my giving oral to a straight man? Dr. Hook described it as low risk. I’m not sure how long it lasted but I did taste some precum however he ejaculated on my chest not in my mouth. Does that lower the risk?
If I were to test with rna at 20 days or a 4th gen at 4 weeks would you consider it conclusive for my exposure? I’m not sure what the risk is for giving fellatio because there’s a lot of mixed info online. Thank you.
50 months ago
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So to summarize:
Exposure: Giving oral to a guy (no ejaculation in mouth)
Symptoms: sore throat for 10 days and 100.1 temp for a couple of hours
Tests: 4th gen test at 10 days post exposure and 5 days post symptom onset.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
50 months ago
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You're splitting hairs. As Dr. Hook told you, the risk of HIV from giving oral is roughly one in 10-20,000, IF the male has HIV. That's equivalent to giving BJs to infected men once daily for 27-55 years before infection might be likely. And the likelihood your partner had HIV probably was no higher than one chance in a thousand. That brings your HIV risk to performing BJs on male partners once daily for 27,000 to 55,000 years before infection would likely occur. I certainly hope you will agree that amounts to "essentially no risk". Which of course is also ";ow risk".
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Since it is already conclusive that you do not have HIV, it will still be conclusive after a negative RNA test. As I said, I think testing is pointless. But if you feel you must do it, feel free.
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50 months ago
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Is my 4th gen test only 10 days after exposure considered conclusive because of how low risk the exposure is? Because I thought 6 weeks was recommended.
Thank you for all your help
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
50 months ago
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6 weeks is required for a conclusive AgAb (4th generation) HIV test. But based on your symptoms and exposure, you can safely assume you do not have HIV. Of course you are free to be tested if you wish to do so.
That completes the two follow-up exchanges included with each question and so ends this thread. Please note the forum policy against repeated anxiety driven questions. This being your fourth question on this topic, it must be your last. This policy is based on compassion, not criticism, and is designed to reduce temptations to keep paying for questions with obvious answers. Also, experience shows that continued answers tend to simply prolong such anxieties, when the real answer normally should be professional counseling. Finally, such questions have little educational value for other users, one of the forum's main purposes. Such repeated questions are subject to being deleted without reply and without refund of the posting fee. Thank you for your understanding.
I do hope the discussions have been helpful. Best wishes and stay safe.
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