[Question #8030] Testing Windows for unprotected oral

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49 months ago
Dear Drs Hook & Handsfield

30 days ago I received oral sex from a TS escort

I have had no symptoms at all apart from the occasional sting when I urinate (though I think this may be normal and exaggerated due to my concerns).

 I undertook an STD panel at exactly 28 days.

Everything was negative (HIV, Syphilis, Gonorrhoea, Chlamydia).

I have a couple of questions however:

  1. Would 28 days be appropriate for HIV and Syphilis or am I recommended to wait for 6 weeks for conclusive results? (in the UK they recommend 3 months for Syphilis)

  2. Would waiting 28 days to test for gonorrhoea and Chlamydia potentially risk missing an infection if they had cleared up on their own before testing?

    (I have seen comments from both of you saying these infections generally clear but it's unknown how quickly, correct me if I'm wrong)

    How realistic a concern is this?

    3) Would you consider 28 days reliable for these two STDs (gonorrhoea and chlamydia)?

    I think I have read Dr Handsfield say on here that G & C test performance peaks around 4 weeks, but I would appreciate some clarity.
I have been having unprotected intercourse with my girlfriend and I am worried I passed on something to her in the interim, which was not picked up by the urine tests if they were too late..



Thank you for the great forum.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
49 months ago
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your confidence in our advice and your kind words about it.

Oral sex is low risk for all STDs and virtually zero risk for some of them, including HIV. There has never been a scientifically proved case of HIV transmitted oral to penis, and only a few penis to oral. Also few or no cases of chlamydia transmitted oral to genital, and gonorrhea transmission is fairly uncommon. Syphilis is the main concern in situations like yours:  not all that common after a single oral sex exposure, but dangerous if not diagnosed.

Assuming your test panel included a urine test for gonorrhea and chlamydia, those results are conclusive any time more than a few days after exposure. (You are mis-remembering or misunderstood me about 4 weeks for G&C testing:  5 days is plenty.) Conceivably you were infected and the infection was cleared before you were tested, but that's quite unlikely; usually it takes a few weeks to a few months for spontaneous cure. However, you are correct that your syphilis and HIV blood tests were a bit early. The usual HIV blood tests detect over 95% of infections at 4 weeks, syphilis probably 80%. Six weeks is 100% for HIV, and detects almost all syphilis -- but some experts indeed recommend 3 months to be absolutely certain, so the local clinic policy is not unreasonable.

It is exceedingly unlikely you infected your regular partner. The risk of all these infections was very low; the absence of symptoms is further security against gonorrhea, chlamydia, and syphilis; and you've had those negative test results. I really wouldn't be worried at all at this point.

I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.

HHH, MD
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49 months ago
Thanks Dr Handsfield for the precise answer and reassurance.

1) in regards to gonorrhoea and Chlamydia, is there any data/anecdotal evidence on how often the 28 day test is negative after someone has caught infection? 

In most cases, would you take these negative results at face value and rule them out? 

2) in the worst case scenario that I did infect my gf, would I be re-infected via vaginal sex?

 I have had sex with her regularly, so would a further negative test  be further proof that I wasn't infected?

3) from what I read on here, gonorrhoea most likely would produce symptoms and not be asymptomatic in men, is this accurate

4) if I wear a condom for oral sex in the future, I presume none of the above will be a risk anymore - is this because the tip of the penis is where the danger is generally?

5) lastly, considering it's very unlikely I caught anything based on results, do you reckon I should hold out on sex until a last round of tests at 6 weeks (to cover all mentioned STDS and rule out genital reinfection)?

Than you sir
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
49 months ago
You're really over-thinking all this and splitting hairs in terms of the statistical odds. Just accept your test results and let it go!

1) No good data exist; I have heard estimates suggesting ~20% of infected people may have spontaneous cure by 4 weeks. But since there was little chance you were infected in the first place I think you can safely ignore this possibility.

2) Yes, if your partner became infected, you could be reinfected yourself.

3) Correct. Asymptomatic urethral gonorrhea in males is very rare.

4). Yes, condoms are highly effective against urethral infection, for the reason you say.

5) If I had somehow been in your situation, I would never have stopped having sex with my wife, even before being tested. Oral sex just isn't a sufficiently high risk. And certainly you should not keep holding off and should not be tested yet again.
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49 months ago
Thank you so much for your excellent and clear reply Dr. It truly is an honour to be able to get advice from an expert on STD's such as yourself.

Last question - so if I notice any discharge or pain or weirdness from my wife (which worried fellows like myself usually are usually hypervigilant for), I can safely assume it's nothing to do with this exposure?

Thank you again
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
49 months ago
I agree any symptoms your wife might develop would not be attributable to your sexual adventures. However, I would also say you should not be the judge of your wife's symptoms or genital health! It's hard enough for some women to judge variations in things like the amount of vaginal moisture, a minor itch or tingle, and so on; their sexual partners are completely unreliable in such judgments. And in the unlikely event she develops symptoms that lead her to see her doctor, you need not and should not mention your sexual exposures unless and until she or her doctor raise the issue.

That completes the two follow-up exchanges included with each question and so ends this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful. Thanks again for your kind words about our services.
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