[Question #8195] Follow up to question #8139 Dr Hook
47 months ago
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Hello doctor. I am a bit concerned for my partner. I waited 11 days to have unprotected sex with my regular partner after protected sex with a csw. I checked my penis very well and never found blisters ever.
11 days after my csw encounter, she and I had unprotected sex. 12 days after she is now complaining about vaginal irritation on her lips and outtee part of her vagina hole. I looked and did not see blisters per say. She thinks it’s soap irritation that is making her vagina sore.
1. My question is what are the chances this imitation could be herpes?
I never had symptoms and I am 95% confident the condom was on the whole time. I didn’t check to see if the condom broke. I am very sure the condom was on most if not the whole time because I took it off to finish by hand. I only penetrated the girl for 30 seconds and the rest was me rubbing my head on her vagina trying to get hard. Never happens
2. Is 12 days after one sexual encounter unlikely to be herpes?
3. If this is not simple soap irritation, what should I be on the look out for her that the unlikely std happened, such as she has vaginal irration for a week?
Sorry for the follow up question but I feel like a piece of garbage for what I did. I would never want to put my partner at risk. I just don’t want my guilt get the best of m and confess to some one in a million event.
Your professional assessment on this matter is appreciated.
47 months ago
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I also meant to ask what is the chance I would go without symptoms? Sorry but I want to be confident I didn’t screw up someone’s life because of my stupidity.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
47 months ago
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I'll be taking this question, but reviewed your two recent discussions with Dr. Hook and agree with all he said. I would say that the answers to these questions should be obvious from that discussion. Given the exceedingly low risk of any STD from your recent oral sex exposure, there is no realistic possibility that any symptoms in you or your regular partner are due to an infection from that event.
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1,3. Neither herpes nor any other STD commonly causes "irritation" as the main symptom. Hard to know how to respond to your second-hand description of her problem, but I'll say that irritation from soap would not likely last more than a day or two. Any longer than that is concerning for a vaginal yeast infection, the most common cause of vaginal area irritation. Yeast isn't sexually transmitted, and neither herpes nor any other STD generally causes "irritation" as the main symptom.
2. I'm not sure I understand this question. If you mean does absence of symptoms at 12 days argue against you having a new herpes infection, the answer is yes -- most new herpes causes symptoms within a week.
Follow-up question: Although some herpes infections cause no symptoms, that's usually in people oblivious and not worried and therefore not paying close attention to their genitals. Anxious persons on the lookout for a problem, like you, would usually notice the typical blisters, sores, etc. if there are no symptoms, i.e. no visible outbreak, it also would not likely be transmissible.
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47 months ago
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1. My question was would her having vaginal irritation 12 days after she and I had sex argue against herpes?
2. I did have maybe a min Condom protected sex with a CSW Dr Hook and I discussed in question 839, hence my heroes worry. You mentioned recent Oral sex. The exposure was condom oral for 3 mins and condom protect sex for maybe a min. The rest was me trying to get an erection and rubbing her vagina to get hard for maybe 2 mins then I took for the condom and finished by hand.
3 . Based on the information you are saying it is very unlikely that my partners vaginal irritation is due to me having herpes and caused by yeast, soap or other issue?
Thanks doctor for responding.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
47 months ago
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Thanks for the correction. Actually, I noticed the error myself before finishing my reply, then forgot to go back to correct it; I meant to delete "oral sex" in order to read "...exceedingly low risk of any STD from your recent exposure...." My apology. As that implies, this doesn't change my assessment of your situation or my advice.
1. Yes. Onset of her symptoms at 12 days is very late for herpes onset. It doesn't completely exclude herpes, but when considering all the factors, there is no realistic chance that you caught herpes or that herpes is the cause of your partner's symptoms.
2. I understood all that. Apologies again for the error in my reply.
3. Correct: "it is very unlikely that [your] partner's vaginal irritation is due to [you] having herpes...." As for what IS causing her symptoms, I can only guess. I've told you why yeast seems like a good bet and soap does not. But I am making no diagnosis; this forum is not meant as a substitute for in-person medical care. The way to sort this out is for her to be professionally examined. But of course that should be up to her, not you.
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