[Question #8249] Herpes & HPV High-Risk Encounter
46 months ago
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This past weekend I (38m) reconnected with a woman (also 38) I had known from years ago and had been conducting an online relationship with. She had disclosed to me beforehand that she was STI-free, although a recent boyfriend of hers (with whom she had had unprotected vaginal, anal, and oral sex) had recently discovered that he had genital herpes. The woman had no symptoms and recognized that herpes tests often give inaccurate feedback. She also revealed to me in the middle of the weekend that she has a single cervical HPV, but has a gynecologist meeting coming up to assess whether or not it has cleared up. She didn't think she had a carcinogenic variety.
Needless to say, we ended up having lots of protected vaginal sex but also unprotected oral sex (given and received). Very stupidly, we had one instance of unprotected vaginal sex that was very short (I was so simultaneously turned-on and anxious that I ejaculated within about 5-10 seconds of entry). I decided to do this because I know from my research that the vast majority of people already have HPV, and that the chances of transmission of herpes from one partner to another in any single sexual encounter is quite low. Still--really stupid of me.
Questions
1) I know this was a high-risk encounter, but what are the typical odds of transmission of HPV in any one sexual encounter? Herpes?
2) It's only been about 5 days, but I have yet to see any symptoms of herpes. Should I get a test or are they too unreliable?
3) If things don't work out with this woman, what should I tell future sex partners? Do I have a burden of disclosure?
Thanks!
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
46 months ago
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Welcome to our foreman thanks for your question. Congratulations to you and your partner as well for your commitment to 6X and your willingness to disclose test STI’s amongst both yourselves and, in her case her past partner. The exposure you described was very low risk for acquisition of any STI including herpes and HPV. Before I address your specific questions let me comment that, as you have already noted, most single vaginal exposures do not result in transmission of infection, that HPV is rarely transmitted through oral sex, and that It’s 38-year-old adult to head past sexual partners each of you has most probably acquired HPV infection in the past. In response to your specific questions:
1. Personally I would not consider this a particularly high-risk encounter. Irrespective, as mentioned above, most single exposures do not result in transmission of infection. For HSV, in the absence of lesions, if your partner happened to be infected (unknown), estimates are that your risk for acquiring infection following a single vaginal encounter is less than 1% and perhaps lower than 0.1%. Similar estimates of risk for transmission of HPV following a single encounter are not available however most experts agree that the risk of acquiring infection following a single exposure is relatively unlikely. I would have a little concern about acquiring either infection from the exposures that you have described and see little value in testing.
2. If you were going to develop symptomatic herpes, lesions would typically occur within 8 to 10 days following exposures. As I mentioned I suspect this is unlikely. There is virtually no value to blood testing at this time and, as you have mentioned, blood tests for HSV in asymptomatic persons are notoriously unreliable, both because they miss infections and they all too often give false positive results.Please do not pursue blood test for HSV.
3. While we encourage disclosure of past partners and past STIs, unless something unanticipated develops in the future, I see no reason to mention to possible future partners that your recent partner may have had cervical HPV or been exposed to a partner with herpes.
I hope this information and perspective is helpful to you. If anything is unclear or there is a need for clarification, please do not hesitate to use your up to two follow up questions for clarification. Take care. I would not worry about this exposure. EWH
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46 months ago
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Thank you so much, Dr. Hook. It really is refreshing to get information on STIs that doesn't read like it was meant to scare teenagers. One other thing about the encounter:
When we were discussing the possibility of not using a condom (I had a vasectomy, so no real worries on the pregnancy front), I told my partner that I had been tested since the last time I had sex before her--because I thought I had. In fact, I forgot I hadn't been tested since one partner before her, an Iraqi woman in her 30s with whom I had unprotected oral sex (given and received) and protected vaginal sex. When I realized that I had been inaccurate in sharing my test results I felt terrible, but that had been a year and a half before and I haven't had symptoms of any kind in the intervening time. I didn't tell her (since I didn't want to scare her if there was no cause) but I made an appointment to get tested at Planned Parenthood just to make sure I didn't actually spread something to her. What STIs do you recommend I get tested for when I go in, or do you even think it's necessary?
46 months ago
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Oh, I should say that the test results I had taken (before the Iraqi woman) were all negative. I can't remember what the STIs they tested for were, but I think it was just the standard panel of HIV, syphilis, gonorrhea, and chlamydia.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
46 months ago
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Thanks for the additional information. I suspect there is no cause for concern. The most common STIs such as Gonorrhea and chlamydia are unlikely to persist for 18 months, had you been infected. While I endorse your plans for testing, I anticipate your tests will be negative. The most important STIs to test for are goo and chlamydia. While far rarer, because folks worry so much about it, I’d text for HIV although there’s little realistic likelihood that you acquired it. Often Syphilis testing is performed at the same time as blood tests for HIV but once again the risk is close to zero in your situation. Please don’t test for herpes, the blood tests are unreliable for routine ttesting.
Hope this helps. EWH
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46 months ago
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It absolutely does. Thanks, Doctor!
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
46 months ago
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Great, glad I could help. EWH ---
46 months ago
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I completely forgot I got a second followup question! I got tested today as recommended for HIV, chlamydia, syphilis, and gonorrhea. I did find out that my partner definitely had an HPV as of her last gynecological appointment (about a year ago, I think). Does the definiteness of her diagnosis change your answer at all vis a vis disclosure, potential of transmission, etc.?
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
46 months ago
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As you know, this will be my third and final response. Is a 38-year-old male who has had other sexual partners it is far more likely than not did you already have a quired HPV at some point in the past. ( FYI, Over 80% of sexually active adults have HPV. For nearly all of them this is inconsequential.). As I said before, I see no reason for disclosure to future partners related to this low risk encounter and no reason to change your dating or sexual activity plans. EWH ---