[Question #8570] Genital herpes blood testing HSV 1 or 2

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42 months ago
Experienced potential initial outbreak of genital herpes (red sores, rash and a few blisters. All of this was only on the inner thighs and not on my actual genitals). These started to appear roughly 14 days after I last had sex and could have been potentially exposed/contracted genital herpes. Had an igG blood test done roughly 1 week later at peak of visible symptoms (22 days after initial potential exposure/contracting) which came back negative. And then I had another test done 11 days later when rash/sores/blisters were starting to heal and fade (33 days after initial potential exposure/contracting) which also came back negative.  I’ve read online that antibodies may not be present for up to 6 months or more after contracting the virus. Is this only if you are asymptomatic? Would it be possible for a false negative, during an initial outbreak, with an igG blood test when when visible symptoms are present (sores/rash/blisters)? Trying to figure out if I should get retested again at the 6 month mark from potential exposure or if 2 negative results during the life cycle of a potential initial outbreak should suffice. And I’m not certain I’ve been exposed, but basing it off potential visible symptoms and the last time I had sex. 
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42 months ago
So to abbreviate the question: Essentially, is it possible for antibodies NOT to be present during an initial genital herpes outbreak (occurring during the first 3-6 weeks since exposure) with noticeably visible symptoms (rash, sores, and blisters) which would produce a false negative on a blood test (igG herpes select)?

And there are more specifics in the “non-abbreviated” version, but wanted to shorten it in case my original phrasing was confusing or not precise.
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
42 months ago
One WOULD be antibody negative with a brand new infection - you might have skin lesions present but not enough time has gone by to have made antibody.  However, the location of your initial symptoms don't fit well with genital herpes, to me.  It sounds more like quite a fungal infection to me.  You can retest at the 12 weeks mark and if negative, be 92% certain that you don't have HSV 2.  The IgG test picks up 92% of HSV 2 infections compared to the gold standard western blot.  It would be wise not to take antiviral medication during that waiting time as it can influence the test.

Terri
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42 months ago
Hi Terri, 

So unfortunately I cannot upload pictures to show you what my symptoms looked like. But I always wear condoms so I wouldn’t expect anything to appear where I was covered. The only concern I had was the last time I had sex the woman was on her period (more potential she could be near an outbreak) and she got period blood on my upper inner thighs (although Ive read contradicting articles on if herpes is spread through only skin to skin contact or if fluids from blisters and genital secretions can carry the virus). 

Also, None of my symptoms were painful. The blisters did not hurt but I had several on each upper inner thigh of different sizes with some rash/irritated skin appearing a few days later. And nothing on the genitals whatsoever. No fever, flu, or body pain. Just some blisters. Irritated skin/rash with possible sores on upper thighs. Occasionally I would notice a odor down there that smelled musty and like I hadn’t bathed. But I was showering every other day since I was keeping bandages on the area in case it was something that could spread. And The last time I had sex with a different person would have been 3 months prior to the event of potential exposure of herpes, which would be 4 months before the igg blood test so more than likely if I do have genital herpes it would have shown if I had contracted it back in early October (4 months Ago). 

So I guess the only follow up questions I have if what we are discussing sounds logical to you regarding my situation is 
A) can genital herpes be transmitted through genital secretions or menstrual blood that contains fluid from the herpes sores or blisters even though it is not “skin to skin” contact?
B) when would be the ideal time to test again for genital herpes? And which test if I do not show any potential symptoms? IgG or PCR blood test?
C) if it could possibly be a fungal infection of the skin in the upper thighs, is there any tests to determine that?
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42 months ago
Or would the western blot be more accurate down the road compared to the igG or PCR Blood test (assuming no future symptoms that I described end up coming back)? I'm hoping this was just something fungal (side note: I also put athlete's foot cream and bandages on the area of blisters, irritated skin/rash with possible sores for several days during the peak of the symptoms occuring in case it was jock itch).  Wasn't really sure what to do at the time, and didn't know if it could spread if I didn't cover it.
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
42 months ago
A) can genital herpes be transmitted through genital secretions or menstrual blood that contains fluid from the herpes sores or blisters even though it is not “skin to skin” contact?
I would say it is possible but unlikely

B) when would be the ideal time to test again for genital herpes? And which test if I do not show any potential symptoms? IgG or PCR blood test?
NEVER EVER A PCR blood test.  PCR testing is for lesions, with a swab.
for greatest assurance, you would test 12 weeks out from the encounter with a herpes western blot

C) if it could possibly be a fungal infection of the skin in the upper thighs, is there any tests to determine that?\
That is certainly possible - were you seen for evaluation of the lesions?  What did the clinician think?
Sorry, you are out of questions at this point.

Terri

 
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