[Question #8610] anal sex and hiv

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42 months ago

Dear Dr H. Hunter Handsfield

I  will keep it brief. I am 23 female in London. 70 days ago, I performed oral sex on a black male(met in a bar)without condom and he ejaculated in my mouth. He also gave me oral sex and licked my anal. We then had vaginal sex with condom for about 5 minutes and continued with anal sex with the same condom for another 5-10 minutes. The bad thing happened: the condom broke and I don't know when. He ejaculated in my anal again and we found the condom was broken. He was pretty relaxed about it and I was a bit drunk so I didn't worry until a few days. I can't contact him now because I don’t have his number. He mentioned he is from Dubai and is traveling around Europe.

Symptoms: 2 lymph nodes on my neck. sore throat that comes and goes(and is still) white tongue

I had the following negative tests:

A rapid HIV test at day 28(finger blood)

4th generation HIV tests at day 28, 42, and 59. The first one was done at a GUM clinic and the other two were done at two different private clinics. They all sent my venous sample to a lab for testing.

The last clinic told me that I am in the clear because the window period is 45 days. However, I think my exposure is very high risk so I can’t calm down and have been searching on the internet and your forum.

I have the following questions:

1. About HIV-2. Do these tests detect HIV-2 for 100%? I find that recently BHIVA published a separate guide on HIV-2: https://www.bhiva.org/file/615ee3de98539/BHIVA-guidelines-for-the-management-of-HIV-2.pdf which says that the window period is still 90 days because there is no antigen.(page 16)

I would really appreciate it if you could take a quick look at that page 16. Do I need to take a test at 90 days? What’s your suggestion?

2. Do I need PCR testing now? I see you suggest PCR test for high-risk exposure

3. Should I test for HCV? If so, what tests? There are HCV PCR, HCV Ab and HCV Ag…

4. What else should I do?

Thank you so much for your help!

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Edward W. Hook M.D.
42 months ago
Welcome to our forum and thanks for your questions. I’ll be glad to comment. Before I do let’s face your encounter in context.  You are concerned about your exposures although you do not know that your partner was infected with HIV of any sort. Your highest risk exposures for acquisition of infection if your partner did happen to have HIV were the unprotected vaginal and anal sex which occurred when the condom broke. Please remember that it is statistically unlikely that your partner had HIV of any sort and that even if he did your risk for infection if you happen to have untreated HIV infection is less than 1/2 of 1%. With that background---
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
42 months ago
Apologies I accidentally hit submit before I could complete my response.  I noticed well that you have tested for HIV using highly reliable fourth generation HIV antigen/antibody tests 28, 42, and 59 days following your exposure.  On  to your questions:

1.  Your tests test for HIV-2 antibodies but do not test for HIV-2 antigen. As a result, here in the United States we would not consider your tests for HIV-2 conclusive until 56 days (8 weeks)  following your exposure. The recommendation that test for HIV to antibodies are not conclusive until 90 days following exposure are very conservative. I did read page 16 on the document you referred to and these statements refer largely to persons with indeterminate/inconclusive tests. I am confident that you did not require HIV –1 or -2 from the exposures you describe

2.  The value of PCR testing is for early diagnosis of infection. There is no need for PCR testing at this time. Your results are conclusive for both HIV-1 and HIV-2.

3.  Hepatitis C is very, very rarely past through sexual encounters of any sort. The few cases which do occur occur in persons who participated repeatedly and receptive rectal intercourse. If you want to completely rule out the possibility of hepatitis A, I hepatitis see antibody test will do that conclusively at this time. Personally, While this is certainly an individual decision, I would not even bother to test.

4.  At this point, presuming you also tested at all sites of exposure for far more common STI such as chlamydia and gonorrhea, I believe that you can safely assume that you did not acquire an STI of any sort, including HIV or hepatitis C from the event you describe. I see no reason for further testing. 

I would urge you to do your best to put your concerns aside and move forward. I hope this perspective is helpful. EWH
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42 months ago

Thanks for your reply, Dr. Hook.

Yes, I had negative tests for gonorrhoea, chlamydia, and syphilis at 42 days and the clinic told me these are conclusive. Do you agree?

I am actually in a relationship. This is the first time I have had this kind of behavior and guilty takes over me. I have been abstinent all this time(My partner is not in London). But I can’t hold any longer to not telling him and not having sex with him. So just to confirm:

1. My latest test at 59 days was done outside of the 8 weeks(56 days) mark you mentioned, so I 100% don’t have HIV(1 and 2) and will not put my partner at risk by resuming unprotected sex with him? No need for any further testing?

2. I just need a bit more reassurance to move forward because I can’t stop worrying about my symptoms. I read a similar statement in other threads but just want to confirm with you that this is still true: with my negative fourth-generation test result at day 59, no symptoms I have now or ever have in the future can be due to HIV(1 and 2), assuming no new exposures. So I don’t need to pay attention to potential future symptoms. Do you agree?

Again, thank you for your help Dr. Hook.

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Edward W. Hook M.D.
42 months ago
Thanks for the additional information. This is very helpful. Indeed, your results for the more common STI’s are absolutely conclusive. Believe the results. There is no further testing needed.  Regarding your specific follow-up questions:

1.  I agree with your statement. You have absolutely ruled out HIV-1 and -2. I see no need for additional testing.
2.  You can be absolutely confident that any symptoms you had before your most recent test we’re not due to HIV. Further, your results of your test are definitive and indicate that you were not infected. I see no reason to be concerned about future symptoms whatsoever.

I hope the information I have provided has been helpful to you. My advice is to put the encounter you’ve described behind you and not worry any further. You did not acquire HIV from that encounter. It is time to move forward. EWH 
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