[Question #8691] HIV RISK

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41 months ago
Hello, 

About 5 weeks ago I went to a massage parlor and got a happy ending massage.  During the massage, while laying on my stomach, the masseuse rubbed and teased my rectum numerous times and sometime for an extended period of time.  At the time I may have had a rectal tear (from constipation/hemorrhoids).  Ever since I have been freaking out about the possibility of HIV transmission from this interaction, in the event that she had ejaculate/sperm on her hand from a previous client who could possibly be hiv+.  If I had an open tear, the sperm could have made contact with it.  Since then (for a few weeks now) I have had a couple instances of diarrhea and the lymph nodes in my groin area and armpits have become enlarged and painful!!!     

I am looking for expert advise regarding the risk factor of hiv transmission through this interaction.  Please help.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
41 months ago
Welcome to the forum. Thank you for your question.

You needn't worry at all:  there was no risk for HIV or any other STI. Even in close personal sex, when someone might use his or her own genital fluids for lubrication, fingering and hand-genital or finger-anal (or finger-vaginal) contact carry little or no risk of transmission. Such activities simply don't carry enough virus to allow tranmission to occur. (Even with ejaculation into the vagina or rectum, with billions of HIV particles injected directly inside, the chance of becoming infected is no higher than one chance in a thousand.) And in the situation you describe, it is simply impossible that the massage worker hands had sufficient body fluids from a previous customer to infect you. That's true even if you had open wounds of the anal area.

As for your symptoms, you clearly need professional evaluation for your possibly enlarged/inflamed lymph nodes. In the unlikely chance these symptoms are due to HIV, they are not from the massage events described. The symptoms of a new HIV infection -- i.s. acute retroviral syndrome, or ARS -- always start within 2-3 weeks; 5 weeks is too late. 

For reassurance, you should have an HIV test as part of the evaluation of your symptoms. If negative at this time, it will prove your symptoms are not caused by HIV. (HIV antibody tests always are positive in people with symptoms caused by HIV.) The best approach is to see a doctor or clinic for in-person evaluation.

I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.

HHH, MD
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41 months ago
Thank You for your response.  I think you may have misunderstood the timeline though.  

It is now 5 weeks since the incident.  However, I have been feeling these symptoms for a few weeks now.  Which would line up with the 2-3 weeks after the incident you indicated for ARS to show up.  

Also, this is the only incindent of concern for me regarding hiv transmission. 
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
41 months ago
Even 2-3 weeks is on the late side for onset of ARS symptoms. Mostly it's 8-10 days, only rarely as long as 2-3 weeks. In any case, the HIV testing makes sense for anyone worried about having it, even if extremely unlikely. As I said above, a negative antigen-antibody (AgAb, "4th generation") blood test at this time will prove that HIV isn't the cause of your symptoms. Or you can wait until 6 weeks have passed; at that time, a negative result will prove both that the symptoms aren't HIV and 100% proof you were not infected.

I'll be happy to comment one last time if you'd like to let me know the result of your test if and when you have it, but I won't have any further advice until then. In the meantime, stay mellow: it is extremely unlikely you have HIV. (This and our preceding forum at began almost 17 years ago. In all that time, with thousands of questions from persons worried about a possible HIV exposure, not one person has turned out to have it. You won't be the first. If and when it happens, I'm confident it will be a truly high risk exposure, not a near-zero-risk event like yours.)
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40 months ago
I am now 6 weeks past the incident.  Would a test at this time be 100% conclusive??  
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
40 months ago
My last comment above discussed testing at 6 weeks and included "a negative result will prove...you were not infected." 

That completes the two follow-up exchanges included with each question and so ends this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful. Best wishes and stay safe.
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