[Question #9076] needle incident
36 months ago
|
hello doctors:
i have a needle fear. and a few days ago i was in my doctors office he runs a private practice in a large us city. while waiting for him to come into the exam room i noticed a glass jar with sealed specimen collection tubes and small syringes with needles encased in plastic cases. i took one of the them and put it in my jacket pocket.
the syringe was in a plastic case with a screw top lid and red cover over the needle tip but i did not notice a seal i had to break in order to open it. i simply unscrewed the lid and pushed the red cap over the needle to release the device from the plastic case. i googled it and it is a monoject TB syringe with permanent needle attached
i wanted to demystify the needle. hold it, experiment with it and see what the tip would feel like against my skin so i would know if i ever was stuck with one in the environment.
about an hour later i got to my office and did fill it with water and shoot the water out, hold it and just again try to face my fear of needles. i put it away afterwards.
two days later, yesterday, i pullled it out again to try again. at one point i had it half filled with water by pulling the plunger and holding it in my hand. i put the tip of my finger on the needle to see if i could force the plunger by pressing on the needle and i pricked the tip of my finger. when pressing my finger a small tiny drop of blood came out.
i am pretty sure the tip of the needle is no risk to me but now i’m scared that it was previously used and somehow i injected a small amount of the water into the tip of my finger? this morning i cannot see a sore or don’t have any feeling of soreness or pain in my finger. i can’t really even see a puncture hole.
i’m not sure what to do and am very scared.
36 months ago
|
oh, the device was not in a shapes container it was in a large glass jar on the shelf presumably used to hold these devices for when he needs to use one. again in the glass jar were 5-10 of these devices and a similar amount of sealed collection tubes.
36 months ago
|
-*sharps container , not shapes
![]() |
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
36 months ago
|
Welcome to the forum.
In addition to having the needles and syringes easily available for use by the doctor or her nurses etc, perhaps the office also internally leave the jars out to make injection equipment available (at no cost) for patients who need them for safe self injection, whether for medications (e.g. insulin) or drugs. You can be certain they had never been used -- indeed probably could not have been used by other persons. You describe a single-use system that self-disables to prevent (or at least discourage) re-use. So you can be sure the one you experimented with was not contaminated with anyone else's blood. To confirm this, why not call the doctor's office and ask about it?
From your description, you did nothing with the needle that could have contaminated it after you received it. There is no possibility you could have acquired a blood borne infection. In addition, with a prick so tiny you can't even see a mark, there would have been no risk even if the needle somehow were contaminated with HIV, hepatitis, or any other infection.
"I'm not sure what to do...." There is nothing you need to do. "...and am very scared." For no reason at all. You can forget this incident entirely and move on with your life. There is nothing to worry about.
I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
---
36 months ago
|
oh i was just adding an additional note. so i do have a follow up.
you said: You describe a single-use system that self-disables to prevent (or at least discourage) re-use
this unfortunately does not have a self disabling function. as i have been able to play with it and load and reload water into it and shoot water out of it multiple times. and as stated i did not have to break a seal in order to open the case that held the needle.
i am concerned that the doctor will remove me from the practice for taking one of his needles if i tell him
i did this?
also i fear i drank the water i dipped the needle in to draw water into the syringe. if somehow the needle was infected i’m hoping that was no risk at all?
i guess my only other question is this. if i had somehow injected water into
my finger would there necessarily be evidence of a deep wound?
![]() |
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
36 months ago
|
OK, not necessarily a single use needle system. That doesn't change my advice. Drinking water that had been in contact with the syringe doesn't work any infection, nor would injecting such water into yourself, even in large amount. These are quite irrational worries (as I think you probably understand, given your opening comment about "needle fear").---
36 months ago
|
ok thank you. here is my final question. upon super close examination of my finger i can see a tiny black mark where the needle likely punctured my skin. no redness surrounding it or swelling or anything. or pain to the touch. just a tiny mark.
if someone had used the needle and replaced it and then i took it, that is if the needle was ever used, and if there was hiv blood in the needle or syringe, and since i pricked myself with a tiny amount of blood at the moment of being pricked, or even if i had somehow injected some of the water mixed with whatever remnants might have been in the needle or syringe, into this tiny prick, would this be a zero risk event for hiv? is there any scenario here where i could have infected myself need prep or testing?
36 months ago
|
also, would i know from inspection of i had injected myself rather than just a needle prick? a needle prick itself would be no risk correct? the only risk would be injection. so how would i know if the needle prick involved injection?
thank you
![]() |
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
36 months ago
|
The premise that someone had used the needle and replaced it is nonsense. That didn't happen and I will not further speculate about it. And no, there is absolutely no scenario in which you would need PrEP to prevent HIV or anything else. You know you didn't seriously inject yourself because you only trivially pricked yourself.
That concludes this thread. Do not start another one on this topic; there is no possibility the evaluation and advice you receive would change.. Thank you for your understanding.
---