[Question #9250] Neonatal encephalitis questions
34 months ago
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I have a unique situation and wanted to ask the experts for guidance. I gave birth to my son 18 months ago. It was an induction because I had preeclampsia. I have no prior history of hsv symptoms or outbreaks but had a partner in the past (10+ years ago that may or may not have had it when we were sexually actively) that being said, I had a vaginal birth. 18 hours after my son was born he had what looked like seizure activity found to be a intraventricular hemorrhage ( not common in full terms) one of their differential diagnosis if he had kept seizing was hsv work up. Once they saw the bleed & the extent of it they decided not to do a lumbar puncture, and he was never diagnosed with encephalitis however, to this day it plagues me if he had it, and wasn’t diagnosed. He had a low grade fever( they had to take him out of the warmer which naturally leveled his temp) but no rash and no seizure activity noted on his EEG. He’s had all normal MRI since then. From what I’ve read kids that get herpes encephalitis get very sick and a lot of them have neurological problems later in life he is developing normally and did not receive any antivirus. Just some antibiotics. Does this sound like neonatal encephalitis? And If so could he have survived without treatment and be developmentally normal? Do babies who have just encephalitis have skin reoccurrences or can spread the virus to figure sexual partners. I have so much anxiety ptsd from all of this and would really appreciate your expert
Thoughts. Thank you
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
34 months ago
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My opinion here is that this is not at all related to herpes encephalitis but I've asked Dr. Hook to weigh in on this as well. Generally speaking, babies with herpes encephalitis have far more symptoms than your son had, especially since his follow up MRI and EEG were normal. It's very scary, I know, when a doctor says they might need to do a work up for herpes, but it sounds to me like things resolved with further complication. Is your child functioning normally now?
Terri
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34 months ago
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Ok great I will wait for Dr Hooks response as well.
My son is developing 100% normal and he has very close follow up with multiple specialists. He hasn’t had any symptoms of encephalitis or skin blisters. But I wasn’t sure if he actually had hsv if it would present in the brain or skin? Do you know this info?
Also as a note I have been married for 3 years and 99% confident my partner did not cheat so this would not have been a new infection and like I said no signs or symptoms and had multiple vadginal exams before giving birth. Also no symptoms after delivery in the midst of tearing and having HELLP syndrome too.
Thanks for your input
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
34 months ago
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Greetings. As it happened, it was a bit more convenient for me instead of Dr. Hook to add a comment, but he and I exchanged emails. We agree with Terri's excellent reply. We are not pediatricians or typically involved in infection management in newborns, but we can assure you that infections, including herpes, always are very much on the mind of those managing newborns with seizures or other neurological issues, and it sounds like his doctors at the time considered it. But to the extent that I understand the details of neonatal herpes, I agree with Terri that the problems you describe are not typical for it. (I also have personal experience with HELLP and its consequences in the baby -- my granddaughter also had intracranial bleeding and early fears of developmental delay. But now she is 17, entirely healthy, and sending in her university applications!)
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If you remain concerned about whether he had herpes, I suggest discussing it with his doctor(s), perhaps including those (neurologist? ID specialist?) involved in his care back then -- you can expect reassuring replies.
Best wishes. Let us know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
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34 months ago
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Thank you for your reply. That’s wonderful news about your grand daughter too. Was your granddaughter preterm?
Also wondering if either of you have any pedi ID connections you can consult with briefly about this. I would greatly appreciate it and would be happy to reimburse I’ve looked myself but doesn’t look like there are forums on pedi ID specialty. Thanks
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
34 months ago
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We generally do not make specific referrals, and I am unaware of any online pediatric ID forums. -- sorry! Any major medical center in your general area probably has pediatric ID expertise, or your child's pediatrician should be able to recommend a resource for informal (or as we call it, "curbside") consultation.
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My granddaughter was extremely preterm, 26 weeks and 1.5 lb. Which actually raises another comment for you to think about: the odds any particular pregnancy or newborn would be complicated by both HELLP and herpes is exceedingly low, and even lower if neither you nor your husband had newly acquired herpes in the month or two before delivery. I really wouldn't be at all concerned that herpes contributed to your son's early health issues.
And from what you say in the opening of your question, I see little or no risk of neonatal herpes anyway, which rarely occurs when mom has longstanding (as opposed to newly acquired) genital herpes. If you have any further concerns along these lines, feel free to raise them and I'm sure Terri would be happy to respond. But this will have to be my last comment. Best wishes to you.
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
34 months ago
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Thank you Dr. Handsfield. I completely agree. It sounds to me like this has been weighing on your mind for quite a while. I'm glad that you reached out to us and extra glad that Dr. Handsfield had a personal connection with you about the HELLP issue. If your son is developing normally and is healthy, I see no reason to continue to worry about this. Please try to accept this reassurance and just enjoy your little boy.
Best,
Terri Warren
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