[Question #9389] Receiving oral
33 months ago
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Dear Dr,
I am concerned of HIV risk for an activity that I have not previously had concern of during earlier questions that I have asked.
I recently allowed a female in a massage parlour to perform oral sex on me until ejaculation.
The lady did not have my penis inside her mouth at any time. She instead used her tongue to lick my penis for a few minutes until I ejaculated onto my stomach. She was licking my penis from bottom up towards the top but was not licking the urethra hole as far as I can recall as it was mainly the mid section and around the base of the head.
I am also circumcised in case that makes any difference.
I would really appreciate your opinion as I am extremely worried of any risk of HIV as I see mixed opinions on receiving oral when I have looked online.
Many thanks.
33 months ago
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I just need to add also that the lady told me that she fell unwell 3 weeks ago with fever and headache that was worst she ever had. She had a cut on her foot that had got badly infected at same time. She went to walk in doctors surgery and was told the fever was due to the infection in blood from the cut on foot that had got badly infected. She went on antibiotics and felt better after the 5 days of antibiotics. She had finished the antibiotics 4 days prior to me seeing her and that was 2 weeks after she was first feeling unwell. I am worried her fever might have been ARS and therefore worried she had hiv with high viral load as well.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
33 months ago
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Welcome back to our forum and thanks for your questions. I’ll be glad to provide some comments.
The most important thing I can tell you is that there are no proven cases in which someone has acquired HIV from an infected partner Who performed unprotected oral sex on them. VThis is the case despite thousands and thousands of person to have been studied in this situation. In addition, the nature of your exposure makes it unlikely that HIV or, for that matter, any other STI would be causing your symptoms. When STI‘s are transmitted through receipt of oral sex from a person with throat infection, the infection occurs due to direct contact of the penis with the infected person’s throat. The licking sort of exposure you describe would be no risk whatsoever.
I appreciate that your partner was feeling unwell at the time of your exposure. That said, the exposure you described was still no risk.
Personally I see no medical or scientific reason for concern or more importantly, for testing.
I hope this response is helpful to you. If there are further questions, please don’t hesitate to use your app to to follow ups for clarification. Please don’t worry. EWH
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33 months ago
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Hi Dr , many thanks for this feedback and I understand your point that it has not been proven to pass hiv with oral sex from mouth to penis. In my specific situation where my penis was being licked rather than inserted into mouth, why is it so that this means no chance of HIV can be passed to the penis from tongue licking the penis? Would it make any difference being circumcised for example. Also worried especially where the penis was licked at the base of the penis head where I presume the access point is sometimes for hiv in the skin where I have been circumcised at base of head of penis.
Also I am extra concerned due the the person having had bad fever which ended about 5 or 6 days before the exposure as if it was ARS would this mean higher viral load could change the dynamics of the risk for this specific exposure.
Also you mentioned symptoms but I don’t have any currently other than really worried. Thanks.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
33 months ago
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Licking the penis is similar to kissing and like kissing, there is no risk. HIV is not transmitted in saliva.
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Circumcision makes not difference. In persons with exposure to partners with HIV circumcision actually lowers the risk for infection.
If your partner was experiencing the ARS when you were exposed, their viral load would be higher but that does not make a no risk exposure risky.
Please don't worry. EWH
33 months ago
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I am really struggling this time round to accept the perfectly logical and accurate advice. I just keep playing over in my head that if the viral load of the masseuse was sky high and she licked the penis all over but specially top of the shaft of penis all around the bottom of the penis head (where skin is stretched and soft and attached to head of penis) then could the saliva have enough hiv viral load to infect me via that membrane area or somehow into the urethra once penis flaccid and touched up against that skin that she licked? So sorry to bother you again but would you provide info on if saliva at any highest viral load (during or just after ARS symptoms period) could transmit hiv generally to someone and also specifically in this instance scenario? I have checked penis and no visible cuts and also I washed my penis straight after over the sink with soap.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
33 months ago
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I’m sorry you were having so much trouble excepting the facts that you were encounter represented no risk for HIV. Please remember that the skin of the penis, even the skin on the head of the penis, is thicker and much much more resistant to acquisition of HIV than the mucosal surfaces on the inside of the urethra. There are no data that I’m aware of measuring viral load in saliva during the ARS.
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One additional comment. Please remember that most commercial workers do not have HIV and that people with the ARS are quite sick and it would be unlikely to be working, particularly as a commercial sex worker. Careful scientific studies have revealed that amongst persons seeking care for a flu like syndrome which might represent the ARS, find that less than 1% actually have the ARS and recently acquired HIV. The remainder of far, far more common viral illnesses including COVID-19, influenza, and any of the countless viral illnesses which cause sore throats.
I hope the information I provided to you I hope you get out of the rabbit hole you seem to have gone down. Your fears are scientifically and logically groundless. As I hope you appreciate, we provide of the three responses to each clients questions. And further, we discourage repetitive, anxiety driven questions. This will need to complete this thread. Take care. I wish you the best. EWH