[Question #9456] HSV 2 Transmission Rism

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32 months ago
Good afternoon, I had a question about about HSV2 transmission risk. It concerns a male who has been positive for at least 10 years and is on daily suppressive therapy. The male has never had a genital outbreak, including during the encounter in question; only outbreaks on his mouth even though he’s confirmed HSV1 negative. The male has never transmitted HSV 2 as far as he’s aware. The female parter is negative for both types. The experience involved unprotected frottage (genital to genital rubbing) and brief unprotected penetration; otherwise, the encounter was condom-protected.  Questions: 1) was this a risky encounter for the female and what is the risk of transmission to the female in this case?  2) What is the transmission risk of frottage with suppressive therapy? 3) Is it possible that because the male has never had an genital outbreak but only an oral outbreak, even though he’s confirmed HSV 1 negative, that he has only oral HSV 2?  4) if so, is genital transmission possible or only oral (in other words, would the site of the infection and source of transmission be the mouth only?)?

Thank you.
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
32 months ago
1)  The risk of transmission from a male who has been infected for 10 years (that's a long time) and who is on suppression during a brief penetrative encounter is just incredibly low. 
2)  We have no data on transmission risk with frottage only, with or without suppressive therapy on board.
3) That is unlikely.  The outbreaks in the mouth are more likely canker sores than HSV.  Also, the IgG test misses 30% of HSV 2, so if an IgG test says someone is negative for HSV 2, tehre is a 30% chance that's an error. 
4) If someone has only oral HSV 2 (which is rare), the risk for transmission would be the mouth

So the male has never had an outbreak?  Is the diagnosis based solely on a blood antibody test?  These are very often wrong. 

Terri
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32 months ago
Thank you very much for your reply.  That all makes complete sense.  To answer your question, no, the male has never had an outbreak in the genital area.  Only in the mouth (not sure it’s canker soars as the oral outbreak look a lot like herpes, including being right in the upper lip area).  And yes, confirmed multiple times through IGG blood tests.  Does that change your view on whether the male could have oral HSV 2 only?

 A few follow up questions as well if that’s okay: 1) while there’s no data on unprotected frottage with suppressive therapy, is it fair to assume to assume that it’s less of a risk than unprotected penetration? If so, any sense by how much? 2) what is the risk on the female  of giving unprotected oral in this case?

Thank you.
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
32 months ago
False positives can happen multiple times - you should be certain that the index value obtained on the IgG test is greater than 5 to eliminate any possibility of a false positive.  And it should never be an IgM test, only IgG, and not combined with HSV 1.
I would say it is very fair to assume that the risk is less than penetrative intercourse, yes.  We also don't have any data on transmission from genitals to mouth, but HSV 2 doesn't like the oral area so I would guess the risk is lower than intercourse for that as well.

Terri
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32 months ago
Thank you. When you say that HSV1 doesn’t like the oral area, do you mean HSV2?

The index value on the latest IGG HSV 2 blood test was 2.13.  If one wanted as best confirmation as possible, what would one do—take a western blot?  Is that test availability in NYC?  
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
32 months ago
Whoops yes, that's what I meant - good catch!
That's a low positive for certain.  You most definitely need a western blot and yes, we can do it out of NYC - if you want my help, to to westoverheights.com and follow the link to get a western blot

Terri
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