[Question #9520] Need Advice Doctor Please
31 months ago
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Hi Doctor I found something to come back after my last post about no risk exposure.After my last "no risk" exposure, I don't have any sex except two encounters. One was in 2020 with a girl I met and we have unprotected oral sex and only one time fully protected condom vaginal sex and I am sure I cum inside the condom, no leak, no slip, sperm collected inside, successful covered. If this is no risk event so this one is irrelevant but want to hear your expert opinion about this. The second event is about the condom slip outside. It happened in 19 december 2022, I met a 28 age girl not csw, we did it car driver seat, she gave me protected blow job and continue to protected condom women on top. She wears underpants and she put it in with condom intact, everything protected. In the middle of sex I am little bit can see the condom there because she wears underpants but nothing unsual. Sometimes my penis got lost from her vagina, so she help it to point it back to her vagina. So I told her to make me cum by handjob so she stops and when she withdraws I feel something stuck or something tingling on my penis neck when she withdraws, I don't know what it is. When she comes back to her seat, I see the condom off of my penis and lay down on my pubic near belly, it is fulled with semens fluid, quite a lot like sperm ejaculation. So I ask her, she said she still feels the condom when she touches my penis. I am freak out ! My worry is the condom off outside my penis during intercourse and she put my penis back to her vagina, just my asumption.
Because I need to wait for test, I ask her when her last time having sex, she does not really want to talk about it because her ex memory but she finally told me it was 4 weeks ago with her ex. She said she regularly used condom with her ex, but occasionally no condom. I try to collect information by offering her IV drugs activity and cum inside sex, she refuses greatly like want to stop the relationship with me, she said no to IV drugs and fear of pregnancy. Lastly she accept my fake offer for unprotected sex but cum outside.
I will take her for duo test CMIA next week and she agrees.
31 months ago
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Please advice Doctor, is this high risk event? I have never been have sex anymore after the last no risk event in 2018 and 2020 but now I am really worry about this one time "possible" unprotected vagina "if it was a risk".
I want to marry my girlfriend but afraid of infecting her, she is a negative hiv girl, never have sex yet.
Please Doctor help me, I need your profesional insight, do you even recommend a test for this kind of one time event?
31 months ago
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Additional, when she back to her seat and I saw the condom there on my belly pubic, lot of semen inside and my penis head is so wet and sticky. But is that probably woman ejaculation fluid?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
31 months ago
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You continue to have an unrealistic, inflated view of HIV and STD risks. This was a no risk event with a partner who probably isn't infected. Looking back at your previous threads 3+ years ago, it seems you have had sex only 2-3 times, all protected or otherwise safe. You need to develop a better understanding of the risks. People who date regularly and have a few partners every year generally go months or years without ever catching any STD, and the chance of HIV is even lower. We generally do not recommend testing for HIV or other STDs after any single exposure unless the risk is particularly high (like a known-infected partner), even if not condom protected (and of course if no symptoms appear). Having had only condom protected sex (including oral sex, for which condoms usually are not advised), you certainly do not need testing, and I see no reason for you to insist your partner be tested. A smarter strategy is for you to plan on testing after you have had maybe 5-6 sex partners, and then once a year if you have a few new partners each year.
However, if your partner goes along with testing, why wait 2 weeks? A negative HIV test now -- and negative tests for gonorrhea, chlamydia and syphilis -- will prove you were not exposed and could not have been infected.
---I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
31 months ago
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Hi Dr. HHH first of all I am really happy to see you again and extremely happy to read your comment that saying I am thinking unrealistic about the risk of this event, it means I am safe.
Yes Doctor I only have 4 encounters in my life:
First: one unprotected and one protected with same girl in 2018 and she has tested neg out of 8 months, you have solved it for me
Second: one protected and two unprotected blow job.
Third: recently, one protected blow job and protected with condom found outside.
I am still confused Doctor, what about the possibility of condom slip off outside and was found on my pubic belly when withdraw?
I am afraid "IF" the condom "already" slip off outside and we still continue and we just notice it when she withdraws? I know it's hard to judge based on story but I try my best to describe. One thing I notice when the condom slip off outside is it's filled with lot of semen and my penis head is wet, could it be from the condom?
To be explicit,
1. Why do you say this was no risk event?
2. If I come to your clinic and ask for your expert, scientific, realistic fact opinion, will you give me PEP and testing for this event or will you kick me out of your clinic and tell me to marry my girlfriend and have sex with my future wife without worry?
3.Before came back here, I had a plan to bring her test again in 19 january 2023, it will be 2 months since her last sex with her ex (assuming if she is telling the truth), but if she lies to me, 19 jan 2023 will be a month since our encounter and to be safe, I will test my self in 19 febuary 2023, that will be 2 months from this event and neg result will be conclusive "I guess". Do you think this is TOO MUCH CRAZY?
4. Is there any new data suggest that receiving blow job can get hiv? I am still afraid of unprotected blow job in my secound encounter.
5. It's already 12 days but I don't have any symptoms, just tonight felt my toe cold because of full day of rain today and little feverish but suddenly disappear when I do something activity. Could it be ARS?
Doctor sorry my question quite long, again I am indeed anxious but I will follow your command, if you tell me to go home out of your clinic and forget it, I will follow your advice 100% and I will not get anymore partner in future like you said "5-6 partners", Not Anymore because not worth it feels anxious. I will marry my girlfriend next year, can I move on safely?
31 months ago
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Sorry Doctor forgot to mention, you said that "why wait for 2 weeks, just have the test now", Doctor, I don't know exactly her last sex, she told me one month ago but if she lies and probably just one week ago before our sex and "IF" she is infected, could she infect me if she just recently infected in a week or few days?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
31 months ago
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1. STDs are harder to transmit than you think. Even if a partner has an active transmissible infection, it doesn't transmit in most exposures. With condoms, the risk is even lower. See previous replies. "what about the possibility of condom slip off outside and was found on my pubic belly when withdraw": Why would you think this is a risk? Sexual fluids on skin doesn't transmit infection.
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2. My clinic would refuse to prescribe PEP after such events, no matter how strongly you requested it.
3. Yes. To use your own words, all this testing is "TOO MUCH CRAZY".
4. No new data on this for many years. No risk for HIV.
5. No, ARS doesn't cause such a sympom. You can safely ignore any and all symptoms you might experience in the next few weeks, no matter how typical for ARS they seem to be.
Perhaps it will help you to know that in the 18 years of this and our previous forum on a different website, with thousands of questions from people worried about a possible HIV exposure, nobody has yet reported that they eventually tested positive. If and when it finally happens, it will not be from a risk free event like the ones you have described.
That conclues this thread. Please note the forum does not permit repeated anxiety driven questions on the same topic. This being your fifth -- with all questions almost identical to the others -- it will have to be your last about such exposures or about HIV/STD testing after such events. Repeated questions may be deleted without reply, with no refund of the posting fee. This policy is based on compassion, because we have learned that repeated replies to similar questions tends to prolong anxiety rather than relieving it. In addition, the forum sponsor does not wish to collect fees for questions when the answers are obvious. Finally, such questions have little educational value for other users, one of the forum's main goals. Thank you for your understanding.
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