[Question #9545] Massage no penetration no risk ? Please help
31 months ago
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1) hello I am male just have question I took a naked massage from woman escort which I Did not want to to take at hotel in Thailand
The woman did not touch my penis however she was rubbing vagina on my complete body with her vagina my leg and on my Ass I was so worried that she doesn’t touch my penis
My only risk is I think that her vagina was rubbing on my anus and any vaginal fluid coming out of vagina or menstrual blood enter my anus hole
This is not how hiv or hepatitis c or other stds is transmitted right ?
Assume she is infected with these viruses
2) it says here hiv is transmitted only from vaginal sex or anal sex or oral sex
I would like to know what these
terms mean
Vaginal sex is means penis with no condom inside vagina
Anal sex means penis with no condom inside the anus
Oral sex is a risk from giving a blow job ?
These are the only ways hiv is
transmitted no other ways correct so I didn’t no any of these so I don’t need to test for virus
2b) for all stds if penis does not enter inside of vagina or anus or mouth I cannot get hiv or stds
3) further hiv or hepatitis b or Hepatitis c is not transmitted from rubbing of vagina on anus 0R
anus rubbing on vagina even blood or body fluids went into the anus hole
or into the vagina So both male and female person involved assuming both persons are infected with these viruses Cannot transmit the viruses to each other right ?
3a) Only way hiv or hepatitis b or c is you must have PENETRATION meaning penis must enter inside vagina or anus or mouth that’s it NO OTHER ways You get infected
So I don’t need testing for hiv hepatitis b c
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
31 months ago
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Welcome back to the forum.
Quickly scanning your previous questions and our replies, I think you already have been advised about the absence of STIs from massage. Without sex itself, there is no risk. Some people become concerned because they read (correctly) that some STDs are transmissible by skin-to-skin contact, and thus worry about massage. However, that term does mean that any and all skin-skin contact transmits STDs. It's only skin-to-skin contact DURING SEX that is risky, not hand-body, hand-genital, vaginal or anal fingering, etc. In addition, oral sex always is low risk: all STDs are transmitted a lot less frequently than by vaginal or anal intercourse, and it's zero risk for some of them, including HIV for all practical purpose.
Those comments pretty well cover most of your questions, but to assure no misunderstanding:
1) You are correct: no risk of any STD from the exposure described.
2) You correctly understand what is meant by vaginal, anal and oral sex, with or without a condom. (With a condom the risks are far lower, but it's still vaginal, anal or oral sex.) Do you "need to be tested" for HIV? No, not after any single exposure. However, when such events occur from time to time, it is still wise for such persons to be tested for HIV and other common STDs from time to time, like once a year -- even if there have been no obvious lapses in sexual safety. It's just common sense to err on the side of safety. Given the sexual events you have described here and in your previous threads, I would advise that once a year you have HIV and syphilis blood tests and a urine test for gonorrhea and chlamydia, but no others.
2b) Correct.
3 and 3a) Correct, but as noted above, it still makes sense to be tested from time to time, to protect against an unrecognized exposure or condom failure.
I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
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31 months ago
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Thank you so much for your reply
I asked I am not doing any SEX so it was ONE TIME massage exposure only which was POINT 1 of previous post I want to confirm
I would like it clear hiv hepatitis c and hepatitis b first then other stds
And would like to Qoute YOU on how to AVOID hepatitis c hiv hepatitis b or Stds REST OF MY LIFE
Question are 1 and 1b & answers are below that
1) so to be clear my ONLY risk was woman was rubbing her vagina on my anus any body fluids like vagina fluids or menstrual blood or blood from cuts coming out of her vagina went into my anus Hole which is open during Naked massage
This will NOT cause hiv hepatitis c hepatitis b or any other stds
As this is called frottage and not vaginal or anal sex ? so I don’t need testing for hiv or anything else
1b) in general if roles are reversed IF female person rubbed vagina on anus and if body fluids from anus such as feces or blood went into the vagina
This is not how hiv or hepatitis b hepatitis c or stds are caused
To the FEMALE also As it’s not anal or vaginal sex ?
1c) to answer point 1 and 1b above reason why it’s not a HIV risk and for all FUTURE CONCERNS
DR HUNTER YOU SAY to PREVENT HIV for MALE and FEMALE person its SIMPLE
You must have UNPROTECTED sex which means penis with no condom Must be INSIDE the anus or vagina or mouth that’s it
Ignore all other risks & no other ways you get hiv
1d) penis in mouth mentioned in point 1c above is hiv risk to clarify only from giving blow job and not from receiving ?
2) TO PREVENT hepatitis c all your life don’t have UNPROTECTED SEX that means if penis with no condom does not go INSIDE the anus which is called anal sex
You will not get hepatitis c as well that’s it
Hepatitis c is NOT transmitted from any other ways for example from vagina rubbing on anus and is no risk to both male and female
Or hepatitis c is not transmitted from vaginal sex meaning penis inside vagina only
3) what about other stds e.g chlamydia , herpes & hepatitis B Etc other stds doctor hunter you say for BOTH male and female person are also caused ONLY from UNPROTECTED SEX which means unprotected penis with No condom inside the vagina or anus or mouth .
You can ignore all other risks such as mentioned in point 1 and 1b above and so no need to test for any std
4)To conclude doctor hunter you say if you don’t have unprotected sex or share drug injection equipment you will never get hiv or hepatitis c &b or stds
So I can Ignore all other risks such mentioned in point 1 and 1b above
So I don’t need to test anything
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
31 months ago
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All these statements are correct. I am glad you understand that you can ignore the exposures described in terms of STD risk, and that you do not need to test for any STD or HIV.
That completes the two follow-up comments and replies included with each question, and so ends this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful. Best wishes and stay safe.
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