[Question #9610] Doctor plz help no risk from injection or blood draw surgery etc

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31 months ago
Hello I need your help please ! Sorry for English
 1) medical procedure such as injections or drawing blood  the needles and syringes are new my question is any health care professional(nurse doctor etc )  doing the procedure  is infected with blood blood infections is not risk  of transferring hiv hepatitis c or other blood borne infections to the patient or to anybody else such as patient guardian by patient guardian I mean family member ,friends  ,Anyone etc who are with the patients as help such as holding patient during any type of injection (flu shots , iv drips, vaccine etc) or blood draw as support and comfort for the patient  ?

2) )  heath care professional such as nurse doctor surgeon  or any other health care professional have never known to transfer hiv , hepatitis b or hepatitis c or any other blood borne infections to   Anyone that is patients or to patients guardians( family memeber , freinds etc)  who are with patient as help or   to  ANYONE  else During blood draw , injection , surgery OR ANY OTHER  Patient  or patient guardian  contact or  ANY OTHER Contact with ANYONE 
 Assuming ANY   health care professional  such as nurse doctor or surgeon dentist  etc is infected with hiv hepatitis b or hepatits c or other blood borne infections  and is  doing the procedure such as giving injection or blood draw or surgery  or ANY OTHER CONTACT with anyone ? 

2b) that  is the reason why health care professional such as doctor nurse  etc don’t need to inform patient or patient guardian( family member , friends ) or to ANYONE   if  they (nurse doctor etc ) is infected with these blood borne infections  ? 

3) a new question i took help from professional doctors they informed me no patient or patient guardians (family member ,friends etc ) who are with the patient as help  Or anybody  else has ever been infected with hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or other blood borne infections from needle sticks during injection or blood draw  or any  other time  as they are not health care professional  i was informed there are NONE. So I can move on right as I’m not a health care professional 
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
31 months ago
Welcome to our firm. Thanks for your questions. The questions you are asking regarding the risk of receiving injections or having blood drawn by medical professionals in a healthcare setting are questions that we have seen on this for many many times. I can assure you that, even if a healthcare professional (doctor, nurse, or other healthcare person) was infected with a blood-borne infection, such as HIV or hepatitis, they could draw your blood or give you injections without placing you at any risk for acquiring their infections.

HIV, hepatitis, and other infections found in the flood are more difficult to transmit than many people believe. They are not transmitted by touching, by contact with surfaces which have been contaminated by their blood or secretions, by kissing, or other common everyday interactions.

Your doctors are entirely correct, that no one has ever been infected with HIV, hepatitis, or other blood-borne infections is the result of giving an injection or drawing blood with routine precautions. 

I hope the information I provide is helpful to you. If any part of my responses unclear, please don’t hesitate to use you were up to two follow-ups for clarification.  EWH 
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31 months ago
doc hook Thanks for the reply  please answer my specific POINTS individually that’s what I wanted 
but I’ll ask here now point 1 &1b  below has been answered by doctor hunter SO ANSWER CANNOT CHANGE 

My question  holding child during injection or blood draw on lap 

1) just to be clear  doctor hunter says FOR ALL RISKS doctor hunter has said people only get hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or other blood borne infections when nurse re used needle from previous patient there ARE NO OTHER WAYS we get infected during injection or blood draw 
It’s that simple 

To answer my my concern  Therefore everyone holds their child or a family member during injection or blood draw as support
So BOTH patient and patients guardians by patient guardian I mean family member (parents freinds anyone with the patient are not at risk for blood borne infections no one gets infected . 

This is for both patient and patient guardian 

1b)  this Question Has been answered by doctor hunter   So answer won’t change which is MY  concern  and RISK im just re confirming below 
  
as parent when holding my child during injection or blood draw if worry nurse prick tip of the hollow  needle got blood in the needle 
And then I got immediately got a needle stick by the needle which caused bleeding after the nurse when holding my child because my baby moved on my lap  after the  nurse  I won’t get hiv hepatitis b or  hepatitis c or Other blood borne infections even if this did happen to me 

Because ONLY way doctor hunter said anyone gets infected is when nurse re used needle from previous patient not from the nurse itself assuming   nurse is infected and pricking the tip of needle is not a worry as doctor hunter .

So both patient(child ) and patient guardian (parent that’s me ) cannot get infected with blood blood infections hiv hepatitis c etc this way 


2)point 1b  above is not risk for hiv hepatitis b c or other blood borne infections as mentioned in previous post point 2  any health care professional nurse doctor etc have never known to transfer hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or other blood borne infections to ANYONE assuming if the health care professional is infected with hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or other blood borne infection

to patient That would be my child or anyone else such as patient guardian that would be me the parent  

During injection, blood draw or any OTHER CONTACT with anyone 
 
3) Overall not related to my questions BUT IMPORTANT I was told by my doctors are that NO patient or patient guardian  by guardian I mean freinds family member etc  or ANYONE else  
has never  been infected accidental NEEDLE STICKS with hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or other blood borne infections as they are not health care professional  would you agree ? 
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31 months ago
Apologize for the long post I added dr hunter answer reply above you will agree I’m sure 

just wanted my specific points indvially answered so please do that 

And I just want to tell one last thing my Doctors told Me 
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
31 months ago
This post is repetitive. Further, Dr. Handsfield and I have worked together for more than 30 years, and we never differ on the facts of our responses.

1.  Correct and repetitive.

1B.  This is correct. The answer will not change.

2.  Also repetitive. The answer will not change. This is correct.

3.  Also repetitive.  I agree.

Well, I understand that you were concerned regarding both your and your child’s health, your concerns are misplaced. You need to put these fears aside and move forward. Nothing you have mentioned here suggest any risk whatsoever for HIV, hepatitis, or other blood-borne infections. EWH 
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30 months ago
Thank  English is not my first language I have such faith in doctor hunter 
Sorry the first time I asked my only confusion was when I asked the question 

1)You said no risk to patients in your first reply my CLARIFICATION  I asked for BOTH patient and patient guardian by patient guardian I mean friends family member or ANYONE else who are with the patient

Because for point 1b in previous post my child is  the patient and I’m the  parent which is patient guardian have you understood? 

2) main question  are that patient or patients guardians such as family member friends who are with the patient or  ANYONE ELSE  have never BEEN infected with NEEDLE STICKS with hiv hepatitis b c or other blood borne infections zero 
This is during injection(iv drips , flue shots vaccine )!, blood  draw or ANY OTHER TIME  as they are NOT HEALTH care professional (nurse ) 
This is most IMPORTANT 

3) You have understood and agree with doctor hunter view  about  nurse pricked   hollow needle  With her hand which is a minor needle stick got wet blood in needle during injection or blood draw when  I WAS holding my child during my lap so EVEN and I got pricked /needle stick immediately on my hand after the nurse  I’m not at risk for hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or other blood borne infections assuming health care professional nurse is infected with hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or other blood borne infections

So I can resume my life as normal NO NEED TO TEST  For hiv hepatitis c or other blood borne infections 

3a) reason 3 is not risk Because only way patient (child )or patient guardian (parent ) get blood borne infections (hiv hepatitis c ) is when nurse re used needle from previous patient that’s all I need to remember  ! 

3b) a new question I KNOW my child isn’t infected with these viruses but there are no  proven cases of needle stick causing hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or other blood borne infections from patient(child )  to patient guardian (parent ) when holding child during injection or blood draw or any  other time  from patient to patient guardian as they are not health care professional 

4) new question doctor hunter says discarded hollow needle with or without syringe attached  to hollow needle has also never caused hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or other blood infections if one got an injury with It that caused bleeding at parks , at hospital or ANYWHERE 
How long virus survive in hollow needle or syringe is irrelevant 

5) May I ask this do you AGREE with my doctors that needle stick don’t cause hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c other blood borne infections as needle sticks do not inject blood 

You must push plunger of syringe which is INJECTION to cause hiv hepatitis b or c other blood infections ? 
Even though I’m not a health care worker my doctors said well even health care workers don’t get these viruses from needle sticks 

Although  PLEASE  make sure point 4 and point 3 especially is not cause of concern no testing needed for any blood borne infections so no confusion




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30 months ago
Than you I have added clarification of doctor hunter 

I just want TO move ON and never return and doctor hunter notes were so helpful 
Just simply respond to EACH  point 

I don’t want to bother you guys again I understand the rules thanks you ! 

I’m sure you also agree with my doctors goodbye 
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30 months ago
To not mis qoute doctor hunter 
To clear point 1b of second post and 3 of my last post about nurse pricking tip of hollow needle 

That’s the tip of needle sharp end that goes into your vein so not risk for hiv hepatitis c or other blood borne infections 

Sorry 
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30 months ago
Bottom line do mention I can resume my life as normal now and no need test for hiv hepatitis c or any blood infections 
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
30 months ago
Your follow up posts are once again repetitive. My responses will be brief in the thread will be closed. If you return to the forum with continued, repetitive questions, your thread may be closed without return of your posting fee.  Your questions are clear.  Repeating your questions does not change the answers.

1.  No risk to patient or guardian. This includes if the patient is your child.
2.  Another repetitive question. No one has ever been infected in the bed or you suggest. Not patients not guardians not visitors.
3.  The answer does not change. Both Dr. Handsfield and I have told you this is a no risk situation.  No need to test.
3a.  Correct
3.  Also, correct. There have been no proven infections occurring in the circumstance you described while holding a child.
4.  Correct
5.  Your question is whether or not infection can occur if a needlestick occurs and blood or infectious material is not injected into the skin. It would not.

This is the end of this thread. Please do not return with further questions on this topic. Please move forward with your life without continuing concerns. EWH.
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