[Question #9630] Follow up question
30 months ago
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Hi,
Thank-you for previously answering question #9527 It helped to reduce my anxiety quite a bit and I am hopeful that some further questions help clarify a few things. I can appreciate some of the questions are somewhat anxiety driven and I apologize for that. I wanted to add a little bit more information as I forgot to mention a couple of things and wanted to ask a couple more questions. I could not seem to access my other account so posted here.
Approximately 5 years ago (Before testing for Syphillis, HIV, Hepatitis Ghonnorea and Chlamydia I had two experiences where I had sex with an unregistered sex worker and the condom broke. Does this change any need for testing (I had blood and urine tests twice since then) which were negative for the above?
I gave cunnilingus to a woman after another man had ejaculated inside her approximately 4-5 years ago (have not had pharyngeal testing but as previously mentioned have had urogenital testing twice) does this change the need for any testing?
Approximately 12 months ago with one of the mutual masturbation encounters I had with a transexual (male with a penis) rub their shaft against mine for approximately 1-2 minutes there was no direct contact with the urethra. She/He also pressed her bare penis against my anus for about 20 seconds, did not insert I told them not too. I do not recall any lesions on their penis. Does this change the need for testing?
Approximately 10 months ago my partner advised that she had a sore throat 24 hours after giving an unprotected blowjob, it lasted for a couple of days and went away with antibiotics. Could this have been from an STI?
I have used this rapid test twice for syphillis which was negative. Is this rapid test accurate at all? Can I safely rule it out. I have had no noticeable rash https://www.jalmedical.com/icare-syphilis-rapid-screen-test/
I have no blisters on my genitals and never have c
I am not sure I have ever been tested for Trich or Mycoplasma genitalium . Do I need to be tested?
30 months ago
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Also does keflex do anything to chlamydia at all if by the off chance I had picked it up? I had roxirythromyocin for 5 days at the same time. I can appreciate that keflex is not a usual antibiotic for it, but by the off chance I picked it up, would the two antibiotics together have likely killed it?
I have not had any unprotected insertive intercourse with anyone other than with my partner for at least 18 months condom protected oral) and in the past 3.5-4 years only received oral without a condom once and was tested with the aforementioned STD panel a couple months later.
Once again I apologise for the anxiety driven nature. My anxiety has gotten the better of me recently and I am trying to work through it and move on. Obviously I regret a lot of my past sexual history I am hoping this helps with that process helps me move on for good.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
30 months ago
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Welcome back -- but I'm sorry you found it necessary. (By the way, you selected different username and used a different email address. That makes it more difficult to find and review previous threads, even with the question no. In the event of future new questions, please one or the other of your existing accounts, not still another new one.)
That said, I reviewed your previous discussion with Dr. Hook and agree with all he said. I also agree with your self-assessment that these questions likely are primarily anxiety driven. And although Dr. Hook may not have said so explicitly, most STDs never last more than a few months. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, Mycoplasma genitalium infections, trichomoniasis, and nongonococcal urethritis (NGU) all are eradicated by the immune system within a few weeks or months; persistence for years never happens. (Maybe very rarely for chlamydia in women, but even here the longest reported persistent infection was 4 years, and usually it's gone within a year.) Even if you had never received any antibiotics at all, it would not be possible for you or your partner to now be infected from exposures all those years ago. And although syphilis persists if untreated, you had several treatments that would have eradicated syphilis if you had ever had it. Finally, all your negative tests prove you were not infected.
Those comments pretty well cover these particular infections, except for the opening one about chlamydia. There are few data on roxithromycin for chlamydia. It was deemed to have too many side effects in early research to allow its production in the US, where it is not available. I'm surprised to hear it is used in Australia. However, other drugs of the same class (erythromycin, azithromycin) are active against chlamydia and probably would have eradicated chlamydia if you ever had it. But as I also said, this really doesn't matter: no male has ever been documented (or suspected) to have carried chlamydia more than several months. That fact plus your negative test results should be 100% reassuring. You can move on without further worry about it.
I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
30 months ago
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With apology, I'm realizing I was seeing only your follow-up (secondary) questions in that reply. However, I think the comments pretty well cover your initial questions as well. In case not:
"Approximately 5 years ago..." Nope; these issues change nothing in Dr. Hook's replies or mine.
"I gave cunnilingus..." Oral-vaginal contact is very low risk for all STDs; this also does not change our replies or your zero risk of any active infection.
"Approximately 12 months ago..." These were zero risk exposures for all STDs.
"Approximately 10 months ago..." No, not possible. Anyway, sore throat is almost never an STD symptom; and of course common upper respiratory viruses account for >99.9 of al sore throats.
Negative syphilis rapid tests done more than a few weeks after the last possible exposure are 100% conclusive proof that the tested person never had syphilis.
No genital blisters is good evidence, although not proof, that you do not have genital herpes.
Asymptomatic males never are tested for either trichomonas or M. genitalium; and as I said above, neither of these would persist this long, even without treatment.
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30 months ago
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Posted by admin on behalf of user who is having difficulty accessing their account:
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"I Just wanted to ask if based off the previous history if Herpes Testing needed to be completed?
As stated in the question I have no symptoms (none that I know of at least) and my partner does not either."
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
30 months ago
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I don't understand about herpes testing being "completed". You do not mention HSV testing in you questions above. In any case, you describe only very low risk exposures in regard to HSV, and the standard tests are far from perfect: they remain negative in 30% of people with HSV1 and 5-10% with HSV2; and often they are falsely positive. HSV testing is generally recommended in much higher risk situations than you describe, or in people with symptoms that might be herpes.---
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30 months ago
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" Sorry I realise there was an error n the question. No testing had been completed. I just want to ask if I need to be tested.Do I need to be tested for Herpes based off the above information?Y ou mentioned roxithromycin is in the same class as active antibiotics for Chlamydia (Erythromycin) and Arizthromyocin. Does keflex do anything at all to Chlamydia? In the context of taking it with roxirithromyocin or just before or just after? (Why or Why not?) Do you know of any cases of men having Chlamydia beyond 18 months? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5854005/ This article suggests that Chlamydia clears more slowly in men and can take over 2 years. Is this correct? Do you know of any cases of Chlamydia from mutual masturbation? Do you know of any cases of Chlamydia from protected Oral sex? Thank-you for your patience and kindness with the questions. My anxiety has been quite bad recently and apologise for that in the questions. "
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
30 months ago
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"Do I need to be tested for Herpes based off the above information?" No. See my reply 2 days ago.''
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Cephalexin (Keflex) has no activity at all against chlamydia. It adds nothing to roxi treatment.
No, I have never seen a case of chlamydia in a male that lasted 18 months, but I cannot say it never happens. You cite an interesting study by respected investigators whom I know well. But it's a statistical analysis based partly on some estimates and assumptions that are unproved. The conclusion that chlamydiua "clears more slowly in men" means more slowly than previous estimates, and the 2 year estimate is only that -- an estimate, with no actual documented cases to my knowledge. In any case, your treatment with roxithromycin probably rules out any possibility you remain infected.
Chlamydia has never been known to be transmitted by mutual masturbation. As for oral sex, the data are clear that oral chlamydia is rare (despite many online statements to the contrary), and there actually have been very few if any proved cases of oral to genital transmission.
There is no need to apologize for your questions, but there also is no scientific basis for the anxiety you describe. However, if you remain obsessed with the possibility of having chlamydia despite all reasoned evidence, you could seek treatment with doxycycline for 7 days. There has never been a proved case of chlamydia that was not cured with this regimen. Perhaps it would finally end your worries. (That does not mean I believe there is any chance you actually have it -- strictly as an approach to resolving your anxiety about it.) I also suggest no more online searching on the topic: anxious persons tend to focus on information that enhances their fears and to miss the reassuring bits that also are present. It isn't worth it!
That concludes this thread. Please note that we strongly discourage repeated questions on the same topic, especially if anxiety driven. This being your second on this topic, it will have to be your last. Excess questions are subject to being deleted without reply, and without refund of the posting fee. (Experience shows that continued answers tend to prolong anxiety rather than relieving it; there's often a "yes but" or "could I be the exception" sort of query. In addition, such questions have limited education value for other users, one of our main goals. Thank you for your understanding.
I do hope the two discussion have been useful to you. Best wishes and stay safe.
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