[Question #9697] Further Questions - Test Doubts
30 months ago
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Hi doctors. Sorry to say against your suggestions I went on and retested for Chlamydia and Gono via urine test. As youve said in previous posts, sometimes nothing can give the reassurance a negative test could.
But now I have an additional question. I took the test today, when I went to the lab the nurse told me that one of the conditions of the test was to "abstain from any sexual activity from 2-3 days for the test". To be honest I completely ignore this because Ive always heard only about not peeing 1-2 hours before the test, but never heard about sexual activity.
To be clear I did masturbate on saturday around noon so that counts as a sexual activity 1 day and a few hours before the test this morning, not the 2-3 days the lab seems to ask for
- How could sexual activity affect the test? Did I do it wrong for giving the sample today? The test I took is a whole STI panel via urine sample so in additional for Chlamydia and Gono it tests for mycoplasma genitalium, trichomonas vaginalis, uraplasma and other. (Just if that makes any difference).
I gave aprox 60ml of urine sample
- To clarify a misunderstanding from my last question, I took 1gram of azithromycin in the form of 2 tables of 500mg. Should that cured chlamydia if I had it?
- About my HIV inquiry, as I told you I recently started feeling very sick and experiencing canker sores in my inner cheeks. My last test was at 10 months post exposure. Do you think I could be at risk as some sort of late seroconverter?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
30 months ago
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I'm sorry you found it necessary to return. I carefully reviewed your just-completed thread with Dr. Hook and agree with all he said. Perhaps most important, his closing comment included this:
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You are overthinking this. Sometimes guilt and anxiety are powerful forces with your hard to shake. If you continue to have the level of concern that you expressed in this thread, I urge you to consider seeking the input of a trained mental health professional for tips on how to move forward from your concerns. I say this out of concern for you, nothing more.
The reason you were advised to avoid sex after your new test obviously was not related to the reliability of the result. How could that be possible?? The reason is to avoid infecting someone if you are infected and before you know the test result, which of course is quite common in people tested for STIs. The nurse did not alter her standard, common-sense advice, perhaps not understanding that you have been seriously over tested and it is already proved you cannot possibly be infected. You did not need treatment with azithromycin, but yes it would have cured chlamydia if you had it.
There is no such thing as HIV "late seroconversion". It's an urban/internet myth. And it is impossible to have symptoms from HIV with a negative HIV test. (It isn't the virus that causes symptoms, but the immune response to HIV -- which is reflected as HIV antibody.)
Please do your best to stop obsessing about your ENTIRELY SAFE sexual exposure all those months ago, and your symptoms which cannot possibly be due to any infection from that event. And please carefully consider Dr. Hook's closing advice, which I just quoted again. Finally, please do not ask anything more on the forum: you can be 100% certain that nothing you will think of can possibly change our professional evaluation and advice about your situation.
Best wishes to you.
HHH, MD
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30 months ago
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Thanks for your answer doctor, but Im sorry maybe I did not make myself clear. To avoid sex was not an advice, it was a PREREQUISITE to perform the test. The condition given by the lab was that I was supposed to avoid sex 2-3 days BEFORE the test in order to take the sample.
The conditions for taking the sample by the lab were:
- First void urine in the morning
- Do not disregard the first void
- Avoid sex for 2-3 days prior to the test
So in regards to that:
I took the test today this morning and: To be clear I did masturbate on saturday around noon so that counts as a sexual activity 1 day and a few hours before the test this morning, not the 2-3 days the lab seems to ask for
- How could sexual activity affect the test? Did I do it wrong for giving the sample today? The test I took is a whole STI panel via urine sample so in additional for Chlamydia and Gono it tests for mycoplasma genitalium, trichomonas vaginalis, uraplasma and other. (Just if that makes any difference).
What I would like to know is why do the lab asked for me to abstain from sex BEFORE the test, and if I did it wrong and should call and ask to give another sample or something.
Im doing this because my symptoms are still there and I want the reassurance of a lab result but I want to test right
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
30 months ago
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Sorry, I misunderstood: I thought she had advised no sex for 2-3 days after the test. Still, I'm sure the advice was for the same reason: if someone is at risk and seeking an STD test, it is logical to assume they are sexually active and might be at risk of exposing someone before being diagnosed. However, this restriction has no bearing on the reliability of the test result. Your result will be negative.
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That answers your "How could sexual activity" question. Masturbation also has no effect on test reliability.
"What I would like to know....": Explained above.
I'm sorry to hear you still have symptoms. It has been repeatedly explained to you that your symptoms are not consistent with any STD and that no STD is a possible cause.
You have one more follow-up comment/question opportunity on this thread. Be sure you do not ask anything that has already been answered, or for which the answers are obvious from this and/or your previous thread.
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29 months ago
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Hi doctor, just to let you know my test came back negative as you anticipated. I do have a few questions regarding these non stoping symtpoms and some diagnose I have so far:
1. Urodynamic results came back abnormal. Residual urine, very weak stream and long time void, but my bladder is working just fine so the issue is believe to be physical. Another fact was that foley 16 couldnt reach the bladder. The main theory is a urethral stricture. What are your thoughts on this?
2. Could this physical blockage or stricture or anything could alter the urine test for STIs?
3. My urologist believes that the bladder not being able to empty completely is causing a lot of pressure to pelvic area causing all my symptoms. Could I have your input on this?
This is all VERY coincidental and all started after my exposure so Its very hard no to believe that it had something to do with all this.
I saw this statement from you in one of your answers here: "I have never once seen or heard of any patient who turned out to have anything serious. Nobody with these problems later turned up with infertility, cancer, urethral stricture, epididymitis, or any other complication of the sort that can follow genital STDs and other infections."
So clearly urethral stricture is something that can follow genital STD and infections. It there reason to believe my tests are wrong? What you would suggest I do? Please any advice would be useful and if I can ask you to be as thorough as possible. Thanks!
29 months ago
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A lot of strong and unusual persistent symptoms like:
- Crawly pin prick feel sometimes in urethra in head of penis
- Discomfort is not localized in specific spot but mainly groin and legs
- Sometimes after masturbation my whole penis stays inflammed like all the skin around it.
- Urinary symptoms like weak stream, split stream, frequent urine and more, seems to vary and come and go but always somewhat there
29 months ago
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Just to let you know the test I took was a " Real Time PCR test" that looked for:
- Chlamydia trachomatis
- Neisseria gonorrhoeae
- mycoplasma genitalium
- mycoplasma hominis
- trichomonas vaginalis
- ureaplasma urealyticum
- ureaplasma parvum
Is this a good test? I know youve said is not the same as DNA test
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
29 months ago
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Sorry, but our expertise and advice are limited to STDs. We do not get into genitourinary or other symptoms or problems once STDs are out of the picture, as in your case.
I agree that the sexual event indeed "had something to do with" your symptoms, but the connection definitely is not because of any STD or other infection from that event. Almost certainly the connection is psychological. And before you assume I'm saying the sypmtoms are all in your head, that's definitely NOT the case. They are real and physical, probably related to increased pelvic muscle tension (same idea as tension headaches causing real pain from increased neck and scalp muscle tension). If you really have a urethral stricture, it isn't from the sexual exposure. STDs cannot cause urethral stricture without first causing overt urethritis, which you have not had.
You'll need to keep working with your doctors on all this. Best of luck with it. However, please note that repeated questions on the same topic are not permitted: this being your second about this sexual exposure and your unresolved symptoms, it will have to be your last. Such repeated questions are subject to being delete without reply and withour refund of the posting fee. Thanks for your understanding. Best wishes.
Your last question came in while I was writing this reply. The PCR tests ARE DNA tests (or in some instances detect RNA, not DNA) and they are extremely accurate, that is positive results indicate presence of the bacteria and parasite (T. vaginalis) listed and negative results reliably show they are absent. However, three of them (M hominis and the two ureaplasmas) are entirely normal bacteria in the GU tract. They often are shared by sex partners, and in that sense can be sexually transmitted. But they cause no symptoms or disease.
That truly ends this discussion. Best of luck.---