[Question #9844] Hpv and hsv
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28 months ago
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Hello,im 23 and I have extremely strict parents and i don’t know if what I did potentially ruined my life. At 18 I had a boyfriend but I’m sure he didn’t pass anything onto me (we would do oral and kissing only) and 4 years passed and I did nothing until I downloaded a dating app one day . It felt nice to be wanted again and due to my loneliness or just the sudden attention (always feeling bad and ugly and suddenly getting called hot by all these men) I ended up giving oral to 6 guys. 2 of the guys have a conservative background like me and I am not very worried about, I am more worried about the others as they are complete fuckboys and one has a super high body count. All of these were one time encounters except for one with the fuckboy I saw him three times. I gave him oral and we kissed a bit but what I’m most concerned about is him rubbing his dick on me unprotected (nothing too intense and didn’t last long) but I can’t really remember what exactly happened. Maybe he rubbed on me for a bit and maybe he didn’t, I know I sat on his dick unclothed and rubbed but it wasn’t really ‘in me’. Now I tested for all stds and a throat swab for chalm and gono and everything is negative. Im just scared I contracted HPV in my throat and genitals and herpes in my throat and genitals. Im terrified of taking the herpes test, but maybe that would be a responsible thing to do. I don’t plan on ever touching a guy again and frankly I can’t even masterbate because I feel disgusting. I don’t know anyone else that does this. I always had in my mind ‘I’d stay a virgin’ and I didn’t even know that some stds can’t be visible. I explained to Terri already that I have had no symptoms of hsv 2 except a pimple I once saw and popped and white pus came out and blood too and it felt hard almost like a boil. My worst fear right now is to give birth to a kid and they end up having herpes
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28 months ago
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Also for herpes is it true that 90% of people with hsv 2 just never find out? So they just live their life normally and one day their partner wakes up with an outbreak? I get bad hives once a year and take anti histamines for it, does that mean if I had hsv 2 I would have an outbreak? It’s really killing me. This and potentially getting cancer cause of some dumb stuff I did. Also, in my culture people abstain from sexual stuff until marriage, and I feel like now I know why. I wish this stuff never existed but it does. I had everything in my life going okay but just wanted to experiment or thought it was the way I’d get a boyfriend.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
28 months ago
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Welcome to the Forum. Thanks for your questions. I'll be glad to comment and hope that the information I'll provide will be helpful. The exposures you describe - oral sex and masturbation are relatively low risk and, as a generality, even if your partners were infected, most exposures do not lead to infection
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You indicate that you have interacted with Terri so I won't comment on this although I looked on our Forum to review that interaction and did not see it. Perhaps you used a different user name. As you note many people with HSV-2 are unaware that they are infected, most commonly because they misidentify lesions as something else. Nothin you have mentioned suggests that you have herpes. Please don't test however- the blood tests are often falsely positive and can be misleading. I'll leave further discussions about herpes to Terri.
As for HPV, please don't worry. Again, your exposures were low risk and the vast majority of HPV infections, when they occur, resolve on there own in less than 2 years. Oral HPV is much less common than genital infections as well. My advice regarding HPV is the following- get regular reproductive health exams as recommended and if you have not already, get the HPV vaccine which not only prevents infection but which may also enhance resolution of infection.
EWH
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28 months ago
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Thank you for your answer. There was also genital to genital rubbing and they were ‘promiscuous’ so I don’t know if I now have oral or genital hsv2 or oral hpv. I wouldn’t say there was a lot of friction during the rubbing but the oral was definitely able to transmit all that.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
28 months ago
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This statement is repetitive. You already mentioned your frottage (genital-genital rubbing). You also mentioned that several of your partners had multiple past partners and than one had " a super high body count". This in no way changes my assessment.
My sense is that you are over-reacting. Perhaps you are feeling guilty. Irrespective there is simply no reason for you to feel "disgusting". Your behaviors were normal.
As I already said, I urge you NOT to test for herpes and to deal with any concerns about HPV through getting vaccinated and following routine sexual health screening recommendations
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28 months ago
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I understand but I read a lot of stories on reddit where people were asymptomatic and then their husband just wakes up with cores and stuff. Some even never knew they had herpes and then their baby got born with herpes. I just don’t know if that’s ever gonna happen to me and at the same time I don’t feel like testing. Also my religion forbids any sexual contact before marriage so I feel wrong for not practicing abstinence . if I have oral hsv 2 I can pass it on to his genitals and he could wake up with them, at that moment I’m sure he would regret the day he ever met me.. I don’t know what to do honestly
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
28 months ago
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You really are over reacting. The occurrence or oral HSV-2 is vanishingly rare and while on those rare occasions transmission is theoretically possible, it is almost never seen. For reasons that are scientifically unexplained, the virus simply does not infect the mouth and oral cavity except very, very rarely.
Your posts suggest that you have been searching the internet related to your fears. I urge you not to do this. Much of what you will find there is incorrect, either because it is out of date, taken out of context of all too often, just plain wrong. The internet will mislead you. I urge you to move forward without concern.
Your sense of guilt is likewise apparent in your posts. I urge you to talk through your concerns with a confidential, trained counselor to help you mve forward.
This will complete this thread. I hope that my comments have been helpful. EWH
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