[Question #9891] HIV NAT PCR RNA Clarification

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28 months ago
Good evening doctors,

Question for Dr HHH,

I just want to have a clarification on the HIV NAT test and looking for a blog like answer for someone who’s trying to know more about this test and it’s purpose. 

1. I did a 4th generation test ( hiv 1 and 2 antibody + p24 antigen ) at 9 months and at 12 months post potential exposure( for mental reassurance). I wanted to know : Is a HIV NAT test required to confirm that I don’t have HIV ?

2. Is the NAT test the same as HIV PCR, RNA viral load ? Why do they change name.

Thank you


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28 months ago
Sorry meant my test was I did a 4th generation test ( hiv 1 and 2 antibody + p24 antigen FOR HIV1) *
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
28 months ago
Welcome to the Forum.  Thanks for your questions.

1. I did a 4th generation test ( hiv 1 and 2 antibody + p24 antigen ) at 9 months and at 12 months post potential exposure( for mental reassurance). I wanted to know : Is a HIV NAT test required to confirm that I don’t have HIV ?
4th generation tests for HIV test for both antibodies to the virus made by an infected person and for viral protein (i.e. the virus itself).  These test are entirely conclusive at any time more than 6 weeks following an exposure.  Your test results at 9 and 12 months are conclusive and do not need repeating.  You do not have HIV.  See below about HIV NAAT tests

2. Is the NAT test the same as HIV PCR, RNA viral load ? Why do they change name.
NAAT stands for nucleic acid amplification test.  NAAT tests can test for different nucleic acids (RNA or DNA) and go by a variety of names reflecting the chemistry used in the test.  PCR tests are one type of NAAT. All NAATs test for viral nucleic acid by chemically causing targeted RNA or DNA  from HIV to reproduce itself, amplifying the amount of nucleic acid present and making it easier to detect.  NAAT tests are more sensitive than tests for antibodies which take weeks to develop. They are also more sensitive than tests for viral protein (p24 antigen) because of the amplification process.  As more sensitive tests NAATs become positive before antigens or antibodies from the virus can be detected.  

NAAT tests can be configured to be quantitative and in persons on HIV therapy are used to monitor the effectiveness of treatment (with effective treatment the amount of viral RNA circulating in an infected person is lowered, ultimately becoming undetectable with effective therapy).  Thus NAAT tests can be used both for diagnosis (detection of new infections) or to monitor therapy (when they are used to measure the amount of virus present [viral load}.

Bottom line- you have conclusive tests.  You do not need more tests of any sort.  You do not have HIV.  EWH
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28 months ago

Before asking my initial question I saw  dr HHH reply question #4476 […] if an AgAb test is negative after 6 weeks (or antibody alone after ~8 weeks), doing a PCR is usually unnecessary and a waste of money.

last question : what does he means by the term usually unecessary; is there a situation where it’s necessary to have a pcr test after a negative 4th generation test  6 weeks after exposure?

 Sorry English is not my first language from canada 

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Edward W. Hook M.D.
28 months ago
In Medicine and science one cannot deal in absolutes as new findings occur regularly.  The only situation in which some experts might want to perform a PCR following a conclusive 4th generation or antibody only test would be in HIV medications as PEP or PrEP.  Even then, most experts would use the timelines mentioned by Dr. Handsfield.

EWH 
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